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08-29-2011, 11:42 AM
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Re: History of Rings
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You are dreaming. I know Bro.Bill personally. I did it on purpose just so he would come back with a good answer 
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08-28-2011, 04:17 PM
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Re: History of Rings
Usually, I am a "thread-killer" and no one responds to me...
However, I have this to say about rings. From the time I was about 7 or 8 until I left home at 19, I was in a VERY strict UPC church. Rings of any kind were taboo. I didn't necessarily agree with the whys and wherefores of how it was preached, but it was never an issue for me. I ordered a Sr class ring, but wore it when not at church. Dated a young man from a more liberal UPC church and wore his class ring - when not at church.
As I got older and moved to a more moderate church, I then began to have serious questions about it all. Oftentimes, the scripture about "costly array" was used against the wearing of rings. However, I would see these same ministers and their wives spend exorbitant amounts of money on clothing, shoes, purses, cars, home decor - etc etc.
Where I stand now - there are way more important things to worry about. Personal relationship with Jesus is the key. IF it is wrong for you, it might not me wrong for me! I respect anyone who has a personal conviction regarding not wearing a wedding ring, but I expect them to respect my personal conviction TO wear one. It isn't "costly" nor is it gaudy, but it is pretty. And there are some ministers' wives who I know have paid more for their "Coach", "Dooney Burke", "Gucci" and other purses than my sweet hubby paid for the diamond I now wear. (He got a GREAT deal and it was our 25th anniversary - when we married, I wore just a band.)
There are some things that should be personal convictions. To wear or not wear a wedding ring is one of those thing!
And that's all I have to say about that.......
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08-28-2011, 04:34 PM
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Re: History of Rings
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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea
Usually, I am a "thread-killer" and no one responds to me...
However, I have this to say about rings. From the time I was about 7 or 8 until I left home at 19, I was in a VERY strict UPC church. Rings of any kind were taboo. I didn't necessarily agree with the whys and wherefores of how it was preached, but it was never an issue for me. I ordered a Sr class ring, but wore it when not at church. Dated a young man from a more liberal UPC church and wore his class ring - when not at church.
As I got older and moved to a more moderate church, I then began to have serious questions about it all. Oftentimes, the scripture about "costly array" was used against the wearing of rings. However, I would see these same ministers and their wives spend exorbitant amounts of money on clothing, shoes, purses, cars, home decor - etc etc.
Where I stand now - there are way more important things to worry about. Personal relationship with Jesus is the key. IF it is wrong for you, it might not me wrong for me! I respect anyone who has a personal conviction regarding not wearing a wedding ring, but I expect them to respect my personal conviction TO wear one. It isn't "costly" nor is it gaudy, but it is pretty. And there are some ministers' wives who I know have paid more for their "Coach", "Dooney Burke", "Gucci" and other purses than my sweet hubby paid for the diamond I now wear. (He got a GREAT deal and it was our 25th anniversary - when we married, I wore just a band.)
There are some things that should be personal convictions. To wear or not wear a wedding ring is one of those thing!
And that's all I have to say about that.......
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a very sensible post. I think its awesome that you were raised in UPC and are still there. I agree, it is frustrating to see the money spent on expensive and extravagant cars, clothes, houses, vacations, ect. How is that modesty?
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08-28-2011, 10:31 PM
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Re: History of Rings
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a very sensible post. I think its awesome that you were raised in UPC and are still there. I agree, it is frustrating to see the money spent on expensive and extravagant cars, clothes, houses, vacations, ect. How is that modesty?
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LOL - yep, I'm still around. It ain't perfect, but .......
I've certainly seen a lot in my day.
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For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. Jeremiah 29:11
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08-29-2011, 03:34 AM
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Re: History of Rings
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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea
Usually, I am a "thread-killer" and no one responds to me...
However, I have this to say about rings. From the time I was about 7 or 8 until I left home at 19, I was in a VERY strict UPC church. Rings of any kind were taboo. I didn't necessarily agree with the whys and wherefores of how it was preached, but it was never an issue for me. I ordered a Sr class ring, but wore it when not at church. Dated a young man from a more liberal UPC church and wore his class ring - when not at church.
As I got older and moved to a more moderate church, I then began to have serious questions about it all. Oftentimes, the scripture about "costly array" was used against the wearing of rings. However, I would see these same ministers and their wives spend exorbitant amounts of money on clothing, shoes, purses, cars, home decor - etc etc.
Where I stand now - there are way more important things to worry about. Personal relationship with Jesus is the key. IF it is wrong for you, it might not me wrong for me! I respect anyone who has a personal conviction regarding not wearing a wedding ring, but I expect them to respect my personal conviction TO wear one. It isn't "costly" nor is it gaudy, but it is pretty. And there are some ministers' wives who I know have paid more for their "Coach", "Dooney Burke", "Gucci" and other purses than my sweet hubby paid for the diamond I now wear. (He got a GREAT deal and it was our 25th anniversary - when we married, I wore just a band.)
There are some things that should be personal convictions. To wear or not wear a wedding ring is one of those thing!
And that's all I have to say about that.......
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We really need a Like button for posts, just like Facebook has. This would be one of them that I go clickey-clickey on.
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08-28-2011, 11:55 PM
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Re: History of Rings
Interesting many that say wedding rings are wromg due to pagab history will celebrate christmas.
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08-29-2011, 05:41 AM
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Re: History of Rings
Now that we've earned our PhD on the origins and history of the "band," what should we take away from this, KClee?
Your next thread needs to be something about the things that will send one to hell because of their pagan/trinitarian/etc origins...
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08-29-2011, 04:40 PM
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Re: History of Rings
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Originally Posted by Dagwood
Now that we've earned our PhD on the origins and history of the "band," what should we take away from this, KClee?
Your next thread needs to be something about the things that will send one to hell because of their pagan/trinitarian/etc origins...
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not my style
but im sure someone else could...
and i suppose you can get whatever you want out of it...seems like plenty of ppl do that with the Bible :-)
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08-29-2011, 05:38 PM
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Re: History of Rings
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
not my style
but im sure someone else could...
and i suppose you can get whatever you want out of it...seems like plenty of ppl do that with the Bible :-)
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one of my former mentors went over board with the rings and stuff like you do, in the end i seperated from him. you have to be careful and this may not be you, but he was more concerned about the external look of the person.
I still have his notes, but the same thing i told him still applies, the only thing that makes something pagen is the person calling it pagen.
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08-30-2011, 04:30 AM
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Re: History of Rings
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
not my style
but im sure someone else could...
and i suppose you can get whatever you want out of it...seems like plenty of ppl do that with the Bible :-)
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