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Old 01-04-2012, 12:27 PM
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No doubt that many will follow you for man has always wanted a "king" over them since the ancient times.

But hey...isn't this the reason you left UPC?
I think he was being a bit tongue in cheek.
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Old 01-04-2012, 01:27 PM
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I would tell y'all but it is confidential.
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Old 01-04-2012, 01:43 PM
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I would tell y'all but it is confidential.
If I were a betting man I'd wager you feel or teach 100% of the tithe belong to the preacher.

I'd also wager that your church does not know what your salary (or take) is.

I'd wager that you would not take time to teach a widow , who tithed on her gross income, that she is double tithing when you take her tithe her on her SS check.

There's more things than not obeying acts 2:38 that might cost one eternal life.
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Old 01-04-2012, 01:54 PM
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If I were a betting man I'd wager you feel or teach 100% of the tithe belong to the preacher.

I'd also wager that your church does not know what your salary (or take) is.

I'd wager that you would not take time to teach a widow , who tithed on her gross income, that she is double tithing when you take her tithe her on her SS check.

There's more things than not obeying acts 2:38 that might cost one eternal life.
What a freedom to be delivered from the above thought process. And uphold and respect pastoral authority that is in line with the bible.
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:20 PM
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If I were a betting man I'd wager you feel or teach 100% of the tithe belong to the preacher.

I'd also wager that your church does not know what your salary (or take) is.

I'd wager that you would not take time to teach a widow , who tithed on her gross income, that she is double tithing when you take her tithe her on her SS check.

There's more things than not obeying acts 2:38 that might cost one eternal life.
That is an great point. I wonder if there is anyone who has actually told seniors collecting SS that they don't need to tithe if they in fact tithed for a large portion of their lives on their normal income.
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That is an great point. I wonder if there is anyone who has actually told seniors collecting SS that they don't need to tithe if they in fact tithed for a large portion of their lives on their normal income.
Doubtful...most would take her tithes then, when she was broke, have some one drive her to the food pantry at the Methodist church.
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Old 01-05-2012, 04:54 PM
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If I were a betting man I'd wager you feel or teach 100% of the tithe belong to the preacher.

I'd also wager that your church does not know what your salary (or take) is.

I'd wager that you would not take time to teach a widow , who tithed on her gross income, that she is double tithing when you take her tithe her on her SS check.

There's more things than not obeying acts 2:38 that might cost one eternal life.
BUMP for Elder Epley Not asking you to wager. Just asking for an answer to the 3 questions, since we are all enjoying this discourse on tithing.
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BUMP for Elder Epley Not asking you to wager. Just asking for an answer to the 3 questions, since we are all enjoying this discourse on tithing.
1. I do believe the tithe is for support of the ministry. The pastor is to live OUT of the tithe. He is to be in control of the tithe. That does not mean he keeps all the tithe. In my ministry knowing hundreds of pastors I have never met one who took all the tithe for himself. I surely never have but it is under my control.
2. I would have no objection in telling anyone what salary I placed myself on. Only a couple of times in my entire ministry has anyone asked me and I told them. But you know I never ask any saint in the church what their salary is? I would not tell a non-tither it is none of their business.
3. I have told folks who paid tithes on their gross they would have to use their own judgment on their pensions and SS. I have given tithes back hundreds of time to elderly saints or bought them groceries with it or fill their tanks up with gas. Or anomously sent their money back through other people.
I am not totting my horn because I do not believe I am any different than most pastors I have known. There has never been a saint I have pastored that has matched me on giving to the needy or giving to the church NOT ONE. I do not regret the groceries I have bought, school books I have paid, cars I have fixed, rents I have paid, loans I have made and refusing the payback, clothes I have bought, tires, washers, dryers, refrigirators, stoves, air conditioners, fuel oil, gas & electric bills, and the list is endless. Many times some saint told me about the need of a another saint(most of which never pulled the billfold and gave ONE dollar toward the need).
During those rough peanut brittle years my wife made the most of it with kids and my family sold it including myself. Who sat at bake sales and made most of the goods? My wife. Who cooked dinners for most of our guests? My wife. Who made sure the church was clean when the saint 'forgot?' My wife.
Now God has blessed us with much more than we deserve and you think I am going to allow tightwads and preacher haters to maek me feel bad because I don't have to buy day old bread and can buy a new pair of shoes and not buy used tires? Forget it. I have been abundantly blessed and now I have more to bless others.
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I would tell y'all but it is confidential.
THAT IS SO FUNNY! I LOVE IT!
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Since I am Da Bishop and Head High Potentate in my Non Denominal Prosperity Gospel Church - I keep all da money. How else will I pay for my Bentley, Rolexes, mansions and Gulfstream to show the blessings of the Lord on my ministry? What is wrong with you people? It ALL belongs to me because I am da Pastor, Prophet, Chief Apostle, General Overseer, Supreme Superintendent, Arch Bishop & The Highest Authority of any Government in the earth. Y'all keep this up and I will anoint myself as the Pentecostal POPE and rule over all of you!
at least your honest.
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