Not sure where to go from this point...

[UnTraditional]

My recommendation is to go to your pastor before you decide to make the move, and express your concerns about things. Take a little time to pray and seek the Lord. If the meeting does not turn out right, you then have done all you can to try to resolve the situation, and then seek God about where to go and what to do. But, in all truth, this may not have been the best place to air this situation.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

My recommendation is to go to your pastor before you decide to make the move, and express your concerns about things. Take a little time to pray and seek the Lord. If the meeting does not turn out right, you then have done all you can to try to resolve the situation, and then seek God about where to go and what to do. But, in all truth, this may not have been the best place to air this situation.

It seems to me like the Poster gave very little info. All I got was she opposes UPC standards.

[tv1a]

Praying and asking God for wisdom is a great. Meeting with pastor bad idea at this time. I've heard too many "holiness" messages that were "preached" because of meetings with the pastor.

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

My recommendation is to go to your pastor before you decide to make the move, and express your concerns about things. Take a little time to pray and seek the Lord. If the meeting does not turn out right, you then have done all you can to try to resolve the situation, and then seek God about where to go and what to do. But, in all truth, this may not have been the best place to air this situation.

[MawMaw]

Meeting with pastor bad idea at this time.

It is never a bad idea to talk things over with your Pastor.

[Nitehawk013]

For all the good that can be done by this forum, here is an example of all that is bad about it. Someone has an issue where clearly the first thing they should do is sit down with their Pastor and talk through an issue. Instead they get advice like "just leave" and "don't talk to your Pastor". Unethical nonsense. Showing no respect for the man of God who serves her.

As to this specific situation, let me say what many would refuse to say. Evenuntodeath, non-conformity is one thing...rebellion is another. I don't mean rebellion like some do, where every disagreement is labeled rebellion. I mean it this way. If you can never submit yourself to a church and a leader, and just suck it up and accept that you will never 100% agree with any church or leader, then the problem is YOU not them. Submission and faithfulness is not measured when you agree, but when you disagree.

You have a stable church that was there for you when your life was a mess by your own admission. This church and leaders work with you and nurse you back to health and now all of a sudden you are quick to want to toss them aside and move on because you don't agree with some standards? Sorry but that speaks to your rebellious nature more than their overbearing standards.

I do not know what leader you are speaking of, but the knowledge I have of the Pastors I know is that if you talk to them, they will probably tell you that even if you disagree and don't "line up" they will still want you to come to church and be a part of your church, even if you cannot work in some areas of the church. Most Pastors will still love and care for you despite disagreement, as long as you aren't openly causing division or stirring up little rebellions. At which point YOU would be the one wrong and they would have a scriptural right to mark you as one who cause4s division or sows discord.

My Pastor and I are completely opposed on tithing. I think it is a horrid doctrine. He knows I feel this way. I spoke to him about it. He also know sI don't think we should bother with some of the standards that are preached. Despite this, I am a minister who teaches from the pulpit very often. He knows that while I disagree, I am loyal and love th echurch. So I don't spread my feelings form the pulpit. This is where faithfulness and love for a church is shown. Not in times of agreement, but disagreement.

If you feel you need to leave, then prayerfully consider it, but at least have enough respect fo rhte man who preached salvation to you to sit down and talk to him. Otherwise, it speaks to your problem, not the churches. And if you do not bury a rebellious nature it will just follow you to the next church where you'll find some reason to not want to conform to somethign there as well.

In the end, if you do not deal with it properly you will be like some on this very forum who never go to any church be4cause they have delluded themselves into thinking they can just stay home and "love God" while creating whatever religious rules for themselves they think are good. They get so blinded by their own rebellion and self righteousness that they cannot see how wrong they are. That sister is the path you are on if you do not temper your non-conformist nature with maturity and understanding of submission and allegiance.

[AreYouReady?]

Not all pastors are created equal.

I once went to my pastor to talk about an issue I had many years ago. I felt like I was in a war zone in the aftermath of these talks. The repercussions rippled out for several years afterwards.

If I knew that was going to happen, I would have never taken the advice from what I thought was a close friend and went to talk to him about my feelings!

Sometimes one just has to pray and rely on the Lord Jesus.

[bbyrd009]

Amen.
It seems to me that, in brief,
if the guy's stance on certain spiritual issues,
preached from the pulpit, is no longer
lining up with what one believes,
then what is there to discuss?

Any very fundamental differences, discussed,
can only bring strife, imo.
This is an unction from God to find one's
next Right Pastor to me.

[Cindy]

[Cindy]

Y'all please be nice to each other, before I have to go all Admin ninja.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Cindy

What happened to "Good Grief" ???