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Old 10-02-2012, 09:19 PM
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Agree. Does seem awfully abrupt to post something like that on Wikipedia without a motive.
Or on a Christian forum.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:25 PM
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I saw the Wike link before it was removed.

Moral failure and financial impropriety both seem vague.

Sure hope someone's not out to get this pastor and spreading lies.
I would think it was just the person posting it showing a bit of class not detailing the accusations. I think what was written covered the situation just fine.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:27 PM
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Or on a Christian forum.
The original post didn't specify reasons. They were just stating the facts about the departure. Cleatus posted the Wikipedia link - but, well, it was on Wikipedia... Pretty public already.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:35 PM
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Some of this drives me batty.

Look folks, when a preacher falls morally -no matter the sin- it's not because the Devil made him do it. It's because he doesn't practice what he preaches.

Far too often we blame the Devil, or demons, or spiritual warfare.

The truth is ultraconservative flesh is no different from uberliberal flesh.

This is a huge hole in the ultracon armor. Ultracon Apo's believe their standards keep them from falling. But they don't.

Hey what about the Guru Nityananda Swami getting arrested?

Listen, it has nothing to do with ultra or liberal, Christian, or Brahmin, people drop the ball, and everyone on the side lines either throw kisses, or sling mud.
Positions of authority, or positions of followers, people are going to be people.

Oh, another thing, standards thrown under the bus?

Good grief, some people need to get themselves some new material.

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Old 10-02-2012, 09:56 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

So did he really resign or not?
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:03 PM
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Sadly what you say is true. I think everybody realizes that ultimately it is a human beings failure but you must acknowledge that ministers seem to be under particularly harsh spiritual attacks. I believe it is because the enemy of our souls knows what a negative impact a minister failing has. It ripples out to effect a lot more people than when a saint fails. It is not just "shooting two birds with one stone" but sometimes shooting scores or hundreds with one stone.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:04 PM
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So did he really resign or not?
Yes. It is not rumor. I would not have posted that he resigned if it were not true.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Yes. It is not rumor. I would not have posted that he resigned if it were not true.
Yes you might be a ultra lib,but you are honest.
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Hey what about the Guru Nityananda Swami getting arrested?

Listen, it has nothing to do with ultra or liberal, Christian, or Brahmin, people drop the ball, and everyone on the side lines either throw kisses, or sling mud.
Positions of authority, or positions of followers, people are going to be people.

Oh, another thing, standards thrown under the bus?

Good grief, some people need to get themselves some new material.

You say that with a straight face while we are talking about yet another incident. The irony is rich.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:18 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

Bro. Terry Black was not a conservative from my understanding. I might be incorrect, but I do not believe that I am wrong. I would need to see more of his church.
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