Why Imply No Tongues = No Salvation?

[mrnbcox]

Many of the post on this thread are sickening. Outright blatant tearing down of scriptural truth.

Ignorance of scripture has been shown clear by several.

[Steve Epley]

I don't know anyone who teaches you must speak with tongues to be saved. You must have the baptism of the Holy GHost to be saved and EVERYONE who recieves it speaks in tongues. That is NOT the same.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I don't know anyone who teaches you must speak with tongues to be saved. You must have the baptism of the Holy GHost to be saved and EVERYONE who recieves it speaks in tongues. That is NOT the same.

Can a person have the baptism of the Holy Ghost without speaking in tongues?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Can a person have the baptism of the Holy Ghost without speaking in tongues?

NOPE.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

NOPE.

How is it that you connect the Baptism of the Holy Ghost to salvation?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

How is it that you connect the Baptism of the Holy Ghost to salvation?

The Baptism of the Holy Ghost is the birth of the Spirit.
The Baptism of the Holy Ghost is the resurrection power of the believer without it they will not be resurrected.
The Baptism of the Holy Ghost is the sealing of the Spirit.
The Baptism of the Holy GHost is the LIFE of the believer.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

The Baptism of the Holy Ghost is the birth of the Spirit.
The Baptism of the Holy Ghost is the resurrection power of the believer without it they will not be resurrected.
The Baptism of the Holy Ghost is the sealing of the Spirit.
The Baptism of the Holy GHost is the LIFE of the believer.

The Bible does not record the Phillipian jailer nor anyone there at his conversion to speak in tongues.

Faith without works is dead, which is why the Bible records the jailer's baptism, upon the confession of his faith.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The Bible does not record the Phillipian jailer nor anyone there at his conversion to speak in tongues.

Faith without works is dead, which is why the Bible records the jailer's baptism, upon the confession of his faith.

I do not believe it is necessary there already a pattern given I think it is understood.
I say all the time folks are saved with out mentioning tongues. Because all who receive the Spirit speaks in tongues it is a given.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by tv1a

You don't have to say a sinner's prayer. You don't have to repent to speak in tongues. Joel says there will be a day when the Spirit will be poured out on all flesh. It doesn't say a person has to ask for a gift that God promised. The baptism of the Holy Spirit has no strings attached.

As one Elder friend of mine often says, "You're as wrong as two boys kissing!"

Ac. 5.32: "And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him.”


Stop it Luke...You legalist! You're offending Calvary Luke !

Lk. 11.13: "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”


Jesus....You're wrong! "It doesn't say a person has to ask for a gift! Don't you know it's 'No strings attached'!?" .



Jn. 3.5: "Jesus answered, Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.'"

Ac. 2.4: "And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."

Ac. 10:44: "....the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues."

I Cor. 12.13: "For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit."


Looks like we have biblical salvation against religion....once again!

Respectfully, the original poster should be running back home to the church that affirms these biblical truths....Not away from it.

If one speaks in tongues upon receiving the HG (as alllll will), they have the assurance they have reflected the biblical examples....Otherwise, well, not so much.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by rdp

As one Elder friend of mine often says, "You're as wrong as two boys kissing!"

Ac. 5.32: "And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him.”

Stop it Luke...You legalist! You're offending Calvary Luke !

Lk. 11.13: "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”

Jesus....You're wrong! "It doesn't say a person has to ask for a gift! Don't you know it's 'No strings attached'!?" .



Jn. 3.5: "Jesus answered, Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.'"

Ac. 2.4: "And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."

Ac. 10:44: "....the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues."

I Cor. 12.13: "For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit."


Looks like we have biblical salvation against religion....once again!

Respectfully, the original poster should be running back home to the church that affirms these biblical truths....Not away from it.

If one speaks in tongues upon receiving the HG (as alllll will), they have the assurance they have reflected the biblical examples....Otherwise, well, not so much.

Now that is some good preaching up in here.