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02-06-2013, 08:25 AM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
It's like the trinity. Everyone thinks they know the other's persin's theology.
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Just curious as to why you would call these two topics garbage? And, I simply ask for understanding, because I may not understand the nomenclature.
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02-06-2013, 11:49 AM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
Typo corrected.
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It's like the trinity. Everyone thinks they know the other's person's theology.
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
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02-07-2013, 05:02 AM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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Just curious as to why you would call these two topics garbage? And, I simply ask for understanding, because I may not understand the nomenclature.
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The first would be a teaching that there is actually a scriptural formula to always be ahead financially as a divine right and never face financial hardship.
The second is a man centered message that is designed to appeal to the masses.
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02-07-2013, 06:08 AM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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The first would be a teaching that there is actually a scriptural formula to always be ahead financially as a divine right and never face financial hardship.
The second is a man centered message that is designed to appeal to the masses.
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I see where you're coming from here.......to play Devil's Advocate, is there any scripture that says a Christian SHOULD face financial hardship?
And, as far as a man-centered message, I don't see being purpose driven as man-centered.....Jesus was purpose driven......what makes the difference is what your purpose is.....
Again, just for discussion........
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02-07-2013, 12:32 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
Three things poverty minded christians don't want to hear.
The LOVE of money is root of all evil.
Blessed are the poor IN SPIRIT
It's harder for a rich man to enter heaven. BUT WITH GOD, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.
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The first would be a teaching that there is actually a scriptural formula to always be ahead financially as a divine right and never face financial hardship.
The second is a man centered message that is designed to appeal to the masses.
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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02-05-2013, 05:21 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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It's sad that Jesus did not get the memo. In fact, he actually marked some of those folk as his own by giving them the Holy Ghost!!
Now if they are teaching "prosperity" or "purpose driven life" garbage, I'd certainly discourage my members from visiting.
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I think you should stop hijacking this thread.
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02-05-2013, 05:25 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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I think you should stop hijacking this thread.
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Emma is that a sin? 
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02-05-2013, 05:36 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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Emma is that a sin?
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It is WRONG to high-jack a thread and talk about whatever you want. I would never do that.
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02-06-2013, 02:08 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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I think you should stop hijacking this thread.
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I didn't. My response had everything to do with controlling churches. I was expressing why I thought it controlling to discourage members from ever visiting a church that still needed more truth.
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02-06-2013, 08:49 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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I didn't. My response had everything to do with controlling churches. I was expressing why I thought it controlling to discourage members from ever visiting a church that still needed more truth.
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Don't explain and don't worry about it Originalist. It doesn't matter what you post. Ms Emma will find a way to tell you how unholy you are.
I fed her roadkill for dinner and she probably thinks that the roadkill was more holy than I. 
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