Well Technically Speaking....

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

If it doesn't matter, then it would be fine for me to baptize others in my name?

What if I decide to baptize people into the name of Bill Clinton or perhaps Ronald Regan.

Your intoning "FlamingZword" or "Bill Clinton" or "Ronald Regan" over the individual certainly wouldn't determine the salvation of the individual, would it?

[Michael The Disciple]

My testimony of baptism in Jesus name.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZDRk6Sx4X0

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Your intoning "FlamingZword" or "Bill Clinton" or "Ronald Regan" over the individual certainly wouldn't determine the salvation of the individual, would it?

Ok then in that case feel free to baptize others in your name, since it does not make any difference.

what shall we call the people baptized by you, the Seekermen?

[The Lemon]

I realize that things are to be in order, and certainly there are absolutes in the Word. There are things we are responsible for in this relationship with Jesus.

I know that our realtionship to Christ is similar to that of a husband and wife. I have been with the same woman for nearly 25 years. I love her and am committed to her by the help and grace of God. Having said that, I would not seperate my marriage from her based on her not following every edict that I may require of her.

In fact, outside of adultery, I am not biblically allowed to divorce. We may argue, we may fuss every now and again, but I love her and am in this for the long haul.

Case in point...someone repents, gets baptized, recieves Gods Spirit - they are in this relationship....but somehow, they are going to be put away - not because they are not following hard after God in all they know, but because when they got dunked it was in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost - ala the "technicality".

Some folks on here are more comfortable then I am in damning that soul. I am not talking about an unbeliever who refuses the Gospel or who does not believe that He is...to me there is a difference.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Ok then in that case feel free to baptize others in your name, since it does not make any difference.

what shall we call the people baptized by you, the Seekermen?

Nope, call the people who are baptized by me Christians.

This ain't complicated folks.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Nope, call the people who are baptized by me Christians.

This ain't complicated folks.

I fully agree it is not complicated, the words are pretty simple.

"I baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ"

easy just a few words.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

I fully agree it is not complicated, the words are pretty simple.

"I baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ"

easy just a few words.

Unless a man intones those words over another person in baptism, the baptizee isn't saved?

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by n david

The bolded is only partly correct. The Gospel is not the book of Acts, but the book of Acts is the response to the Gospel; so Acts does have something to do with the Gospel. The response to the Gospel is described through the Acts of the Apostles. It's not that it means works and works has nothing to do with salvation. Acts is the actions which the Apostles did in response to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It's a historical record of the events of the early church.

Originally Posted by Ferd

oh good grief.

if acts means work, then repenting is work.

no difference at all.

doublegoodgrief.

Acts or works are not a part of salvation, period. Repenting is an inward acknowledgment of ones' sins and the declaration to God that one wishes to change. That isn't an work like baptism or an attempt to have to follow a grouping of standards of dress. I was making a play on words not literally saying the book of Acts was all about "salvational works" Sorry for the miscommunication.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by The Lemon

Just throwing out a question that I know has been asked and talked about on here probably a zillion times but at any rate here goes:

Saw a post today from a friend and minister and her was preaching (or ranting) about how your sins can only be remmitted if when you are baptized the preacher proclaims the name of Jesus.

Further more - he went on to say if you were baptized in the titles that you were decieved by the devil and that you would reside in the lake of fire if you are not baptized "correctly".

That is the jist at any rate. Now - I am not starting this so we all can berate one another on this subject - that said, my initial question after I read his post was - "Do we really believe that God sends people to Hell for all eternity over a technicality?"

Now, if I baptize, I do do it in the name of Jesus, and would personally not do it any other way - but that being said, I have a serious problem with grouping folks as unsaved and hellbound over what was or was not said at the moment of baptism.

Call me a coward, but it is a bit of a gray area to me and I was astonished at how bold and matter of fact this preacher friend was putting it in his post - I kinda scratched my head on that one..

I have only read your initial post in this thread but I can tell you right off the bat that most old time Pentecostals answer would be that one mans "technicality" may be God's "necessity"!

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

Regretfully, you are looking outside the BOOK..

Regretfully, you are bound by the LAW...of RELIGION.