October/Halloween... - Page 5

KWSS1976 · #41 10-10-2013, 02:49 PM

Devil went down to Jamica is a good one too...

RandyWayne · #42 10-10-2013, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

My grandparents, who were not 'religious' by any stretch, had NO problem telling ANYONE what they thought. Little kids, grown adults, you name it. If they had an opinion, and felt you needed to know it, then you heard it.

I think we're blowing things out of proportion here... I've had to deal with 'grandma' telling my kids Halloween was just fine... they asked me, I explained things to them, and they learned that Grandma's opinions on religion are irrelevant. Not that I told them THAT, but over the years, studying scripture on their own, they all came to that same conclusion.

Of course you'd be upset, just as if (in the same situation) some family member told your child they needed to be saved by the Lord Jesus or wind up in hell.

Thankfully, none of my grandkids will ever do the Halloween thing, as all my children believe we should avoid pagan holy days.

IF, tho, one of my grandkids were to come visit and ASK ME what I thought about Halloween, I would have no problem telling them I didn't 'do' Halloween, because it's pagan and not of God. They'd get a history lesson (suitable for their age) from Samhain to All Hallow's, from druid to pope, from then to now.

Truth is applicable to all, the only difference age or person makes has to do with the method of delivery.

No matter WHO your grandparents are, you have to watch what they tell your kids.

n david · #43 10-10-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

IF, tho, one of my grandkids were to come visit and ASK ME what I thought about Halloween, I would have no problem telling them I didn't 'do' Halloween, because it's pagan and not of God. They'd get a history lesson (suitable for their age) from Samhain to All Hallow's, from druid to pope, from then to now.

That's fine....here's what you and someone else who posted something similar missed....the girl didn't ask what Renee thought about Halloween. If someone asks a question, I'm fine with it being answered. That's not what happened here. She didn't ask anything until Renee opened her mouth and said, "I don't like Halloween."

Of course after that, any kid is going to ask their favorite question, WHY?

I stand by my earlier statement that it wasn't Renee's business to volunteer that information. I'm pretty sure she did it intentionally, knowing that question would be asked.

Esaias · #44 10-10-2013, 04:16 PM

I do not believe grandparents should undermine parental authority. However, I do not see how expressing your opinion on a matter like Halloween or whatnot is a big deal. Now, if she had said 'you know, your Momma is whacked and doesn't know anything, and you shouldn't listen to her' then yeah, I can see that being a problem.

The Lemon · #45 10-11-2013, 11:42 AM

....and bologna has nitrates, eggs have cholesterol, bacon will kill you - oh yeah and if a kid asks for candy dressed like the green lantern they are unknowingly worshipping satan.

Two words...motive and intent

There are no doubt many arguments about everything from Christmas, Easter, to the dreaded Halloween - I have heard them all, and understand the abstaining from such, and I have no problem with that at all.

That said, I have been in and involved in Church's that allowed Christmas, and some sort of variation on Halloween (like a Harvest Party) - God still moved in our Church, folks still got saved, etc.

Not sure..

n david · #46 10-11-2013, 11:52 AM

I don't know about everyone else, but each year after Thanksgiving, we bring out the old, fake evergreen tree and put it up in the living room to worship at Christmas. We even put gifts around the base of the tree, and wrap it in dazzling lights and other wondrous Christmas decor.

n david · #47 10-11-2013, 11:58 AM

In Bible School, there was a guy who was very vocally against any holiday...especially Christmas. He would rant on about Christmas trees and how Christmas is a demonic, pagan holy day.

So a few days before Christmas break, we broke into his dorm room and set up a small, 2ft Christmas tree, complete with lights, musical carols and fake gifts, on his desk.

I don't think it was a holy anger that he had when he opened the door to find the pagan altar set up in his room.

It stopped him from ranting on about pagan holy days though.

Esaias · #48 10-11-2013, 12:15 PM

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.

Does that include pagan celebrations and holy days?

Disciple4life · #49 10-11-2013, 12:24 PM

Every time I tell people I do not celebrate Christmas something strange happens.
These people that always tell me how much they love God and their fellow man become incredible angry and start telling me that Christians have to celebrate Christ's birth.

n david · #50 10-11-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.

Does that include pagan celebrations and holy days?

Does that include every single other part of life? You could use that verse to single out "pagan celebrations and holy days" and I could argue to expand it to everything else. Food, clothes, homes, cars, modern conveniences, sports, and on and on.