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That was wrong. Had Rep Wilson been giving a press conference or interview, I would have no issue with him calling obama a liar. However, the SOTU speech is not the time or place for a member of Congress to yell at the President. BTW, if you think this was done because of race, I completely disagree.
I'd like to know what you thought of obama using part of his SOTU speech to shame the SCOTUS. As wrong as Rep Wilson was for yelling at the President, obama was equally wrong for singling out the SCOTUS during his speech and trying to politicize their ruling.
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I've read and re-read that article and cannot find the quote you have there. It's not in this article. Here are the actual quotes from the article:
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President Obama’s plan to deliver a speech to public school students on Tuesday has set off a revolt among conservative parents, who have accused the president of trying to indoctrinate their children with socialist ideas and are asking school officials to excuse the children from listening.
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“The thing that concerned me most about it was it seemed like a direct channel from the president of the United States into the classroom, to my child,” said Brett Curtis, an engineer from Pearland, Tex., who said he would keep his three children home.
“I don’t want our schools turned over to some socialist movement.”
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The Republican Party chairman in Florida, Jim Greer, said he “was appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama’s socialist ideology.”
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And Chris Stigall, a Kansas City talk show host, said, “I wouldn’t let my next-door neighbor talk to my kid alone; I’m sure as hell not letting Barack Obama talk to him alone.”
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As you can see, all but one directly refer to obama's political leanings; not one is a reference to race. I agree with these parents. If my daughter was older and in a school that obama was coming to speak at, she would not be attending that day. Not because he's black, but because he's an outright socialist who has unrepentant connections to domestic terrorists.
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These are just a couple of examples of the flames of paranoia that were fanned by the GOP and our official talking heads at the begining of President Obama's first term.
Do I need to mention the birther mularkey and how it even persisted all the way to 2012?
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Did you know McCain had his own birthers on the left? It wasn't as publicized, because it wasn't as hot a story as people claiming the black guy wasn't a citizen; but it was there. McCain was born on a base at the Panama Canal.
And I'll be watching closely how the media treats Sen. Ted Cruz -- and how you respond should they start making an issue of his birthplace once he announces his intention to run for POTUS. It will be interesting to see the difference in coverage of Cruz vs obama.
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As for the paranoia I heard of a woman claiming to see "tanks" or other "unexplainable military vehicles" in the streets of her city as she had called a radio show to report what she had seen-- I'm almost 100% SURE that it was from a Glenn Beck episode. Unfortunately, I can't find that clip-- but I know I heard it.
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What about the quote you made about FEMA camps for white people? That's the one I'm most interested in either finding the source of the claim or whether it was just hyperbole.
BTW, you may not remember this, but during Clinton's term in office there was a lot of talk in the tinfoil hat community about FEMA camps, foreign troops training in the US, and black helicopters conducting urban warfare simulations.
The reason I bring this up is because you want to make it appear as though this is something new when it's really not. The birther stuff, the claims of tanks and other military stories are all old news.
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My original point is this-- the paranoia and disrespect that President Obama has endured started from before day one he was elected and some of it happened with his race in mind. The author of the article quoted in the begining would like to suggest that all of what President Obama has endured had nothing to do with his race, but becuase he is "different". He is different in that he is a minority, and the minority's American experience is often different than the majority's American experience.
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I'm sorry, but this post has done nothing to prove that obama is enduring something new or that it's racial. In fact, everything you mentioned above has predated obama. Birther? Old news. Tinfoil hat conspiracy theories? Very old news.
I would also remind you of what GWB endured during his last 6 years in office. The images of GWB as Hitler or other dictators; the constant hateful jokes by the late night comedians; the movie depicting his assassination (while he was still in office!); the snide remarks about GWB's speech and the way he walks.
IMO, GWB endured a lot more hatred in his time in office than obama.
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