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Re: Pope sends personal message to Pentecostals
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I have not read this thread yet but many years ago I was blessed by Pope Paul VI at his summer residence Castle Gandolfo in Italy. It was a small courtyard so I was part of a relatively small crowd of around 500 people. When he appeared at the window he was supposed to make his short greeting / statement in five or six different languages. Apparently his english was so bad I never knew when he spoke it! LOL
It was a very emotional event for the Roman Catholics in the crowd (which was most of the people) and a very interesting one for a Pentecostal like myself.
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A friend of mine has been there twice over the last 3 years and stayed for weeks. He is pentecostal like us and a former Catholic. He said he attended a large mass directed by the Pope. The throngs of people(hundreds of thousands), along with the atmosphere of ancient Rome, created a strange euphoria of excitement.(kinda like being at the Super Bowl) Did you feel that?
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07-31-2014, 03:00 PM
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Re: Pope sends personal message to Pentecostals
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A friend of mine has been there twice over the last 3 years and stayed for weeks. He is pentecostal like us and a former Catholic. He said he attended a large mass directed by the Pope. The throngs of people(hundreds of thousands), along with the atmosphere of ancient Rome, created a strange euphoria of excitement.(kinda like being at the Super Bowl) Did you feel that?
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Yes. People around me were weeping and it was very heartfelt. Two years ago when we were in Rome we avoided a Papal appearance at St. Peter's by an hour or two so we could avoid the crowds. These days they have metal detectors and long lines for the faithful to get into the area in front of St. Peter's for Papal appearances.
However under normal circumstances the line was not long at all to get into St. Peter's. We also took the semi-secret "excacations tour" that you have to book many months in advance and they only take about a dozen people at a time. You go under the foundation of St. Peter's to see amazing archelogical things including what the RC church believes are the bones of Peter in a box directly under the dome of St. Peter's. All of this was discovered around the WWII timeframe when they were excavating to bury a Pope and discovered these passages. I had goosebumps.
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07-31-2014, 05:34 PM
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Re: Pope sends personal message to Pentecostals
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Yes. People around me were weeping and it was very heartfelt. Two years ago when we were in Rome we avoided a Papal appearance at St. Peter's by an hour or two so we could avoid the crowds. These days they have metal detectors and long lines for the faithful to get into the area in front of St. Peter's for Papal appearances.
However under normal circumstances the line was not long at all to get into St. Peter's. We also took the semi-secret "excacations tour" that you have to book many months in advance and they only take about a dozen people at a time. You go under the foundation of St. Peter's to see amazing archelogical things including what the RC church believes are the bones of Peter in a box directly under the dome of St. Peter's. All of this was discovered around the WWII timeframe when they were excavating to bury a Pope and discovered these passages. I had goosebumps.
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That would be an incredible thing to see. My friend tries to get my wife and I to come with them...they stay for a month or so...(Free with family), and offer us a free place to stay. It is tempting to go there. I just dont want to get into any debates there...They will send us back in a shipping container...LOL
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08-01-2014, 12:57 AM
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Re: Pope sends personal message to Pentecostals
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That would be an incredible thing to see. My friend tries to get my wife and I to come with them...they stay for a month or so...(Free with family), and offer us a free place to stay. It is tempting to go there. I just dont want to get into any debates there...They will send us back in a shipping container...LOL
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It would be a really neat trip, I am sure. If you have a free place to stay, that would be really amazing. Getting into a debate with your hostess/hostesses would definitely pose a problem though!
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08-01-2014, 12:54 AM
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Re: Pope sends personal message to Pentecostals
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Originally Posted by CC1
I have not read this thread yet but many years ago I was blessed by Pope Paul VI at his summer residence Castle Gandolfo in Italy. It was a small courtyard so I was part of a relatively small crowd of around 500 people. When he appeared at the window he was supposed to make his short greeting / statement in five or six different languages. Apparently his english was so bad I never knew when he spoke it in english! LOL
It was a very emotional event for the Roman Catholics in the crowd (which was most of the people) and a very interesting one for a Pentecostal like myself.
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Originally Posted by Sean
A friend of mine has been there twice over the last 3 years and stayed for weeks. He is pentecostal like us and a former Catholic. He said he attended a large mass directed by the Pope. The throngs of people(hundreds of thousands), along with the atmosphere of ancient Rome, created a strange euphoria of excitement.(kinda like being at the Super Bowl) Did you feel that?
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I can only imagine the crowd's emotional response to the Pope. It seems we humans get very caught up so easily in the worship of another human being. There is definitely a palpable emotion that can be felt whenever an important figure in politics, royalty, or other personage is given the kind of honor that elevates them and places them on a pedestal.
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08-01-2014, 07:58 AM
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Re: Pope sends personal message to Pentecostals
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I can only imagine the crowd's emotional response to the Pope. It seems we humans get very caught up so easily in the worship of another human being. There is definitely a palpable emotion that can be felt whenever an important figure in politics, royalty, or other personage is given the kind of honor that elevates them and places them on a pedestal.
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Thats a fact. My friend is a truly spirit filled brother and very spiritually aware of his surroundings. He said he felt a draw to his "Catholic roots" by the "glory" of the whole scene of being in an audience of hundreds of thousands listening to the Pope, with all of the ancient buildings and dedicated followers of Catholicism. Thats is in his words, how Catholicism stays so popular in Italy. It is their own version of Mecca.
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08-01-2014, 10:12 AM
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Re: Pope sends personal message to Pentecostals
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Thats a fact. My friend is a truly spirit filled brother and very spiritually aware of his surroundings. He said he felt a draw to his "Catholic roots" by the "glory" of the whole scene of being in an audience of hundreds of thousands listening to the Pope, with all of the ancient buildings and dedicated followers of Catholicism. Thats is in his words, how Catholicism stays so popular in Italy. It is their own version of Mecca.
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Yes. So many times, people tie emotional feeling they may have as something from the Lord. We must be careful that our emotions, and feelings line up with the Word of God, instead of a warm, fuzzy, feeling about something that is contrary to God's word.
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