Largest Apostolic Church in the US

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Chest thumping.

Personally I don't see large churches as a good thing. Id rather see several smaller to medium size churches in an area under a bishop

I love big churches! I grew up in small works so have experienced both ends of the spectrum. After over 25 years in a couple of Mega Churches it was a strange feeling to go to a small church. Thankfully it grew and is now a large church!

Here are the things I like about large churches;

* A large growing church means the church is fulfilling the Great Commission
* A large church usually has a great music program and I enjoy good music and find it ushers me into the presence of God a lot easier than off key singing and poorly played instruments.
* A large church should have more resources to offer saints of all ages more opportunities for both spiritual growth and fellowship
* My experience with small churches is that there is a lot more of people being in other peoples business!!! Of course that was in old time Pentecost where there were plenty of those wanting to be the "holiness patrol".

I don't buy the main excuse people give for not liking larger churches, that they are impersonal. In every large church I have been a part of or associated with in any way there are a lot of opportunities to network and get plugged in with groups within the church from which friendships will develop. It just takes a little effort.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

You are wrong.

About?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Well sister the ultra cons are doing quite a number on the UPCI.

They want to purify the church so much that anyone who slightly disagrees with them is given the boot.

They only want people who toe their line without any questions.

Pretty sad if you ask me.

There are few UCs left in the UPC.

[AR Pastor]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

There are few UCs left in the UPC.

True there are vey few of we conservatives left in the UPC but some of us are still here.

[Sasha]

I'm pretty sure the church I attend has about 1500-2000 every Sunday.

Five years ago there were less than 100.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

True there are vey few of we conservatives left in the UPC but some of us are still here.

Dear brother why don't you heed the words of Jesus.
Let the tares grow together with the wheat.

I know you want a "pure" church, but don't you realize that is never going to happen, there will always be some tares in the church.

Learn to live with a few tares in the pews, not everyone in the church is going to be wheat.

Let the angels sort the wheat from the tares in the day of harvest.

[Abiding Now]

Amazing! Jesus didn't emphasize how large, but how small.

Matthew 18:20    For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

What sad state of affairs, from what I hear the UPCI is fracturing.
I never liked that the UPCI was controlled by the Ultra-cons but I figure that they would eventually lose power and a more middle of the road leadership would take over.
But it seems the Ultra-cons are tightening their control even harder and they are squeezing people out. In their seal for a pure church they are uprooting a whole bunch of wheat along with the tares.

You are delusional if you think the UPC is controlled by ultra cons there would very many uc's in the UPC?

[Abiding Now]

Looks like someone needs to define what a conservative is.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

You are delusional if you think the UPC is controlled by ultra cons there would very many uc's in the UPC?

Don't forget one man's liberal is another man's ultra con and vice versa! (as I recall I saw you wearing a brown suit in a sea of black ones at a AMF meeting a few years ago. I think in some peoples eyes that qualifies you as a liberal. LOL)