The Standard By Which We Will Be Judged

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

OK so now we all agree that our works must be perfect if we expect to enter Heavens gates??

Rev. 3:1-2


1And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. 2Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

So this is THE STANDARD by which Christians are judged.

Christ continues addressing the fact their works were not perfect and the consequences thereof.


3Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. 4Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. 5He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 6He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

So two things up front. Verse 3 they will miss his coming. Verse 5 he will blot their names out of the book of life.

Very serious stuff.

Ho could a churches work not be perfect?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Ho could a churches work not be perfect?

Remember "Church" is people.

4Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. Rev. 3:4

They had defiled garments. Sin in their lives.

The standard by which we will be judged is no sin in our lives.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Remember "Church" is people.

4Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. Rev. 3:4

They had defiled garments. Sin in their lives.

The standard by which we will be judged is no sin in our lives.

agreed!!!!

[shazeep]

Yup

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

OK so now we all agree that our works must be perfect if we expect to enter Heavens gates??

Rev. 3:1-2


1And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. 2Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

So this is THE STANDARD by which Christians are judged.

Christ continues addressing the fact their works were not perfect and the consequences thereof.


3Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. 4Thou hast ah few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. 5He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 6He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

So two things up front. Verse 3 they will miss his coming. Verse 5 he will blot their names out of the book of life.

Very serious stuff.

very nice, agree

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Be ye therefore perfect even as your Father which is in Heaven is perfect. Matt. 5:48

One of satans wiles is to bewitch the children of light to think they need not be free from sin to enter Heavens gates. Altho overcoming sin is not all there is to the Christian life it certainly is very important.

Most Pentecostal groups now espouse Evangelical teachings, one will never in this life overcome sin. This is very deadly thinking.

Christ Jesus will not marry a bride with sin in her life.

25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. Ephesians 5:25-27

I fully agree that we are credited as having Christ's perfection when we are born again. That is how we are presented perfect in Christ. All the righteous demands of the Law are met in us through Christ according to Romans 8:4. Any righteousness I have is a gift from God and not of myself. But such a righteousness WILL bear fruit and be worked out practically in our lives. If it does not show on the outside you probably ain't got it on the inside.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I fully agree that we are credited as having Christ's perfection when we are born again. That is how we are presented perfect in Christ. All the righteous demands of the Law are met in us through Christ according to Romans 8:4. Any righteousness I have is a gift from God and not of myself. But such a righteousness WILL bear fruit and be worked out practically in our lives. If it does not show on the outside you probably ain't got it on the inside.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I fully agree that we are credited as having Christ's perfection when we are born again. That is how we are presented perfect in Christ. All the righteous demands of the Law are met in us through Christ according to Romans 8:4. Any righteousness I have is a gift from God and not of myself. But such a righteousness WILL bear fruit and be worked out practically in our lives. If it does not show on the outside you probably ain't got it on the inside.

Agreed with this addition. When we are born again Christ gives us his righteousness. Its as if (spiritually) he gives us a new garment of purity. As we walk along if we would commit a sin a spot comes up on our garment.

If we repent it goes away washed by the blood of Christ. If one does not repent it stains the garment and remains unless and until the sin is repented of.

The norm should be our garment is unspotted from the world. If one defiles their garment as the Lord said in Rev. 3:3-6

3Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. 4Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. 5He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 6He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

According to verse 4 and 5 he is in danger of having his name blotted out of the book of life. If he repents and overcomes (makes his works perfect) he is restored to perfection his garment unspotted again.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Agreed with this addition. When we are born again Christ gives us his righteousness. Its as if (spiritually) he gives us a new garment of purity. As we walk along if we would commit a sin a spot comes up on our garment.

If we repent it goes away washed by the blood of Christ. If one does not repent it stains the garment and remains unless and until the sin is repented of.

The norm should be our garment is unspotted from the world. If one defiles their garment as the Lord said in Rev. 3:3-6

3Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. 4Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. 5He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 6He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

According to verse 4 and 5 he is in danger of having his name blotted out of the book of life. If he repents and overcomes (makes his works perfect) he is restored to perfection his garment unspotted again.

The holiness of God within will always make a Christian feel uncomfortable in sin and beckon them to repent. That's why I question these who claim salvation but show no hesitation to sin.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Originalist

The holiness of God within will always make a Christian feel uncomfortable in sin and beckon them to repent. That's why I question these who claim salvation but show no hesitation to sin.

Yeah. If you can sin comfortably, there are major problems. A new convert asked wigglesworth if had to stop smoking and drinking now that he was saved, he answered with "smoke and drink as much as you want if you can"

[Truthseeker]

Hebrews 9:26 KJV

For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

How does him putting away or sin come into play? Side note: says he came at the end if the world.