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01-16-2016, 09:52 AM
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Re: Health, Wellness, and Nutrition Thread
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Just curious, you mention clients... what exactly are you doing to help people regain their health? Is it just a hobby, or do you have a brick-and-mortar place where people come for help?
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i tried a brick and mortar briefly, with a physical therapist, in Colorado. I've played with a couple models since then, but i really try to avoid getting involved now!  i know that doesn't sound charitable; but people do what they want to do, pretty much regardless of advice. The only way i have found to commit people is to enforce a large up-front cost, which limits who might be helped; hence the 3 day fast thing, which is both beneficial and committal.
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Please expound on what your candida cleanse/probiotic regimen is after a 3-day fast. I'm curious 
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Well, that kind of depends upon how badly one's symptoms of candida overgrowth are, which include yeast infections, UTIs, and even staph infections (athlete's foot, etc), and even perspiration scent. The fast actually routs a lot of the candida, and i would ingest a quart of lemon water with chili every morning to speed this up. And by "speed this up" i mean stay close to a toilet for a half hour.
Then after 3 days of this, i just get them perspiring and smell them to determine if they need further candida cleanse--which is pretty rare--but you can also tell by urine, or also if the feet still smell after perspiring in new shoes. Regardless, after 3 days probiotics can be started, but then there is at least a couple weeks of getting back into eating, hopefully more correctly this time.
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01-16-2016, 01:06 PM
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Re: Health, Wellness, and Nutrition Thread
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i tried a brick and mortar briefly, with a physical therapist, in Colorado. I've played with a couple models since then, but i really try to avoid getting involved now!  i know that doesn't sound charitable; but people do what they want to do, pretty much regardless of advice. The only way i have found to commit people is to enforce a large up-front cost, which limits who might be helped; hence the 3 day fast thing, which is both beneficial and committal.
Well, that kind of depends upon how badly one's symptoms of candida overgrowth are, which include yeast infections, UTIs, and even staph infections (athlete's foot, etc), and even perspiration scent. The fast actually routs a lot of the candida, and i would ingest a quart of lemon water with chili every morning to speed this up. And by "speed this up" i mean stay close to a toilet for a half hour.
Then after 3 days of this, i just get them perspiring and smell them to determine if they need further candida cleanse--which is pretty rare--but you can also tell by urine, or also if the feet still smell after perspiring in new shoes. Regardless, after 3 days probiotics can be started, but then there is at least a couple weeks of getting back into eating, hopefully more correctly this time.
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A quart of lemon water with chili? Are you talking about chili powder, chilies, or chili as in beans? How much lemon in the water? How much chili (whatever it is?)
It is all very interesting and fascinating to me, because I have a friend who suspects she may be suffering from SIBO (small bacterial intestinal overgrowth), which is exactly what you are describing - a bacterial invasion and overtake of the gut, and the naturopathic doc has suggested a 3-day fast, but she is quite weak now because not much that she can eat without having terrible pain and evacuation issues, and doesn't think she could go that long without food.
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01-16-2016, 04:38 PM
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Re: Health, Wellness, and Nutrition Thread
Powdered vitamin-c (NON CHINESE!!) approx 2 grams every hour/hour and a half until bowel tolerance is reached. Then stay right below bowel tolerance level for several days to 1 week, then a maintenance load of about 2-8 grams per day.
C is a powerful antibiotic.
Eat a clove of fresh cut garlic 2x a day as well. Garlic is a powerful antibiotic, too.
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01-16-2016, 04:43 PM
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Re: Health, Wellness, and Nutrition Thread
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Staying fit is not a one-size-fits-all program. While all those weights may be an excellent thing for you as a man to do, for a woman, the exercise program would and should look differently.
But adding weights to your exercise program is a good thing to build bone and muscle mass.
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Actually, weights are good for women too. Squats have to adjusted slightly due to differences in hip structure, but everyone can benefit from heavy lifting. My daughter lifts heavy, hits the 100 pound heavy bag (done broke the connecting snap links twice and the ceiling mount at once), runs, climbs, flips tractor tires across the field, and crochets in her spare time.
You do NOT want to take a hit from her, even with gloves and pads. lol
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01-16-2016, 08:48 PM
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Re: Health, Wellness, and Nutrition Thread
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Actually, weights are good for women too. Squats have to adjusted slightly due to differences in hip structure, but everyone can benefit from heavy lifting. My daughter lifts heavy, hits the 100 pound heavy bag (done broke the connecting snap links twice and the ceiling mount at once), runs, climbs, flips tractor tires across the field, and crochets in her spare time.
You do NOT want to take a hit from her, even with gloves and pads. lol
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01-17-2016, 07:47 AM
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ya, it's surely a good idea to stress the bones a few times a week with something heavy; but i see weights getting overdone a lot, too.
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A quart of lemon water with chili? Are you talking about chili powder, chilies, or chili as in beans? How much lemon in the water? How much chili (whatever it is?)
It is all very interesting and fascinating to me, because I have a friend who suspects she may be suffering from SIBO (small bacterial intestinal overgrowth), which is exactly what you are describing - a bacterial invasion and overtake of the gut, and the naturopathic doc has suggested a 3-day fast, but she is quite weak now because not much that she can eat without having terrible pain and evacuation issues, and doesn't think she could go that long without food.
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one or two lemons, size depending, and enough chili powder to be spicy without being unbearable, like a big teaspoon. But this is quite disruptive to the bowel, and one should exhibit symptoms of candida overgrowth for this--the various infections, etc., plus be fat. Or at least be prepared; i do this once a week or so, with virtually no symptoms, but if you have never done it you are going to spend the morning on the toilet.
For a case like you describe, Crohn's onset, basically, she has been "fasting" for years, more or less, not absorbing any nutrition, and i would treat her differently, basically honey and probiotics, adding other candida cleanse ingredients--lemon, lime, and onions to start, introduce garlic and chili, ginger and walnuts later, etc., all smoothied with a kale and coco oil base, about every 2 hours at first, until the explosive liquid evacuations stop, which could be like a week! And sip the smoothie, don't gulp it, at first; stay as "low-volume" as possible. And she may even be too weak for this now, and at the point of needing intravenous feeding, if there is any blood in the stool, for instance.
The evac pain should ameliorate from the first or second smoothie though. I have a girl who got through this, and i can ask her for anything i missed. Cruciferous veggies can be added after explosive evac stops. Hopefully enough honey can be digested to keep her going, but if she gets any weaker I'd have intravenous glucose standing by. This person is a candidate for a colostomy bag already; her bowels are in shutdown, so there's a lot to be said for just putting her right on glucose and concentrated probiotics after one flush. I'll ask my girl what worked best and get back to you though.
My best friend here lives like that, every day; his sister is the success story. He doesn't want to change, i guess, just from hearing what his sister went through, but it sure seems like a tough way to live.
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01-17-2016, 07:55 AM
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Re: Health, Wellness, and Nutrition Thread
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Powdered vitamin-c (NON CHINESE!!) approx 2 grams every hour/hour and a half until bowel tolerance is reached. Then stay right below bowel tolerance level for several days to 1 week, then a maintenance load of about 2-8 grams per day.
C is a powerful antibiotic.
Eat a clove of fresh cut garlic 2x a day as well. Garlic is a powerful antibiotic, too.
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can't deny that these are great, but a Crohn's bowel generally can't tolerate the C, causes too much pain? Of course she wants C any way she can get it, but lemon water is about the max imo. No raw unstructured water. I eat garlic like a snack, lol, when i can find it, but again rough on a bowel in shutdown. Not grocery store garlic, which is fumigated.
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01-17-2016, 08:43 AM
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Re: Health, Wellness, and Nutrition Thread
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ya, it's surely a good idea to stress the bones a few times a week with something heavy; but i see weights getting overdone a lot, too.
one or two lemons, size depending, and enough chili powder to be spicy without being unbearable, like a big teaspoon. But this is quite disruptive to the bowel, and one should exhibit symptoms of candida overgrowth for this--the various infections, etc., plus be fat. Or at least be prepared; i do this once a week or so, with virtually no symptoms, but if you have never done it you are going to spend the morning on the toilet.
For a case like you describe, Crohn's onset, basically, she has been "fasting" for years, more or less, not absorbing any nutrition, and i would treat her differently, basically honey and probiotics, adding other candida cleanse ingredients--lemon, lime, and onions to start, introduce garlic and chili, ginger and walnuts later, etc., all smoothied with a kale and coco oil base, about every 2 hours at first, until the explosive liquid evacuations stop, which could be like a week! And sip the smoothie, don't gulp it, at first; stay as "low-volume" as possible. And she may even be too weak for this now, and at the point of needing intravenous feeding, if there is any blood in the stool, for instance.
The evac pain should ameliorate from the first or second smoothie though. I have a girl who got through this, and i can ask her for anything i missed. Cruciferous veggies can be added after explosive evac stops. Hopefully enough honey can be digested to keep her going, but if she gets any weaker I'd have intravenous glucose standing by. This person is a candidate for a colostomy bag already; her bowels are in shutdown, so there's a lot to be said for just putting her right on glucose and concentrated probiotics after one flush. I'll ask my girl what worked best and get back to you though.
My best friend here lives like that, every day; his sister is the success story. He doesn't want to change, i guess, just from hearing what his sister went through, but it sure seems like a tough way to live.
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I wonder if it is a family thing? My friend says there are others in her family suffering from same symptoms, although not as severe as hers. Do you think it is blood type related, familial, or eating habits?
Thanks for the clarification on the lemon water and chili powder. I will pass the info on to her, but at this point, she is in serious distress and not sure if she physically could do it, because she is so weak. How much honey? In water? Or straight? Do you have a certain probiotic to recommend?
It worries me so much to see her this way. The naturopath has put ear seeds in her ear, not sure what that is to accomplish, and she has also told her she needs a colonoscopy. She has been believing the Lord for a miracle, and doesn't like conventional doctors, but may have to see one for the colonoscopy.
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01-17-2016, 08:48 AM
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Re: Health, Wellness, and Nutrition Thread
this lady is trying to make sales, of a book, etc., but this is a good overview, and if i had Crohn's i would prolly be reading her book anyway, she is a guru of Crohn's.
http://www.listentoyourgut.com/sympt...s-disease.html
discusses how to get C, zinc, and address the anemia, if present. She also has what is likely a better alternative to glucose, but they aren't cheap. Still, for someone virtually starving to death, prolly a good deal.
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01-17-2016, 08:49 AM
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Re: Health, Wellness, and Nutrition Thread
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Actually, weights are good for women too. Squats have to adjusted slightly due to differences in hip structure, but everyone can benefit from heavy lifting. My daughter lifts heavy, hits the 100 pound heavy bag (done broke the connecting snap links twice and the ceiling mount at once), runs, climbs, flips tractor tires across the field, and crochets in her spare time.
You do NOT want to take a hit from her, even with gloves and pads. lol
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Your daughter sounds like my sister. My sister is naturally very strong. She could hit like a man while we were growing up, without lifting weights. She does lift weights now though and she is not someone to mess with. She is petite too. I am petite as well, but did not get the same strength as she got. Funny how that is.
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