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Old 10-28-2016, 06:15 PM
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Re: Christians should NOT vote for Donal Trump

I refuse to vote for DT because he is undisciplined and unpredictable.
I refuse to vote for DT because he does not have a working understanding of US Federal policy.

I refuse to vote for DT because he has no experience working in government.

I will end it there,
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Old 10-28-2016, 06:24 PM
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I'm amazed at how many of you aren't voting. Paul the Apostle appealed to his Roman citizenship in order to spread the gospel further when he was being arrested. The soldiers released him. I think you folks need to pray ask God to give you the decision, and then vote. We're not just to sit back and believe everything's going to work out. I believe we can pray, ask God to direct us for our vote and act on that, and influence the election.
I will most likely vote, but wont vote Trump or Hillary.
I'll write in Tom Hoefling, and vote everything else.
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Old 10-28-2016, 06:25 PM
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Paul acting on his citizenship has nothing to do with voting. I am an American regardless and can further the Gospel without voting.

The Christian church, at large, has the same statistics as the world - divorce, out of wedlock children, STD's, etc., etc., If the church, at large, had been taking their belief and commitment to God seriously, we wouldn't be having the two candidates we have today.

Yes, I have been praying about it, and will continue to do so up until election day. I noticed my voting cards are in my top desk drawer. I know where they are if I need them. And fortunately, in Texas, you need your ID to vote.

I believe not voting for either of these two extremely vile people would move the Gospel forward. Having a large percentage of Republicans not voting, as a matter of record for the Republican nominee, would send a message that we don't condone this type of person on the Republican ticket. The Republican Party has always had a larger bar raised for anyone deciding to get in and run for office who has skeletons in their closet. Trump has so many skeletons the door can't be shut to keep them in. He has lowered that bar considerably and it is very dangerous moving forward to allow this.

We've never had two such vile people running for President at the same time. The old mantra, "Voting for the Lesser of two evils" is certainly accurate this election cycle.
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Old 10-28-2016, 08:00 PM
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I agree. The lesser of two evils makes it a no-brainer to me.
You know what happens when you choose the lesser of two evils? You still end up with evil.
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Sometimes hidden dangers spring on us suddenly. Those are out of our control. But when one can see the danger, and then refuses to arrest , all in the name of "God is in control", they are forfeiting God given, preventive opportunities.
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You know what happens when you choose the lesser of two evils? You still end up with evil.
Right. It's like a no-brainer.
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You know what happens when you choose the lesser of two evils? You still end up with evil.
This is shocking to me. You're not getting it. Was Rome godly? Did Paul still take advantage of his Roman citizenship. The point I am making with Paul is that he took advantage of his citizenship in a godless empire to see the gospel move ahead. THAT ALONE. You can take advantage of your US citizenship to vote for whatever party allows more freedom of religion. Which one allows more freedom of the gospel? That choice is clear.

Trump is loud-mouthed and arrogant. Hillary is a flat-out crook. It's a no-brainer.

One of them is getting in. Which one allows more freedom of gospel is the one you really need to vote for, I think. And I'm not even American.
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I refuse to vote for DT because he is undisciplined and unpredictable.
I refuse to vote for DT because he does not have a working understanding of US Federal policy.

I refuse to vote for DT because he has no experience working in government.

I will end it there,
What has Hillary got going for her aside from her criminal e-mail corruption? She'll be worse than Obama for a liberal and antichrist progress.
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This is shocking to me. You're not getting it. Was Rome godly? Did Paul still take advantage of his Roman citizenship. The point I am making with Paul is that he took advantage of his citizenship in a godless empire to see the gospel move ahead. THAT ALONE. You can take advantage of your US citizenship to vote for whatever party allows more freedom of religion. Which one allows more freedom of the gospel? That choice is clear.

Trump is loud-mouthed and arrogant. Hillary is a flat-out crook. It's a no-brainer.

One of them is getting in. Which one allows more freedom of gospel is the one you really need to vote for, I think. And I'm not even American.
Constantine, Charlemagne, Louis, and others allowed plenty of freedom for the gospel. Howbeit Christianity never seems to thrive when the outward circumstances seem favorable? But in the opposite circumstances, we see true growth if not revival.
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:22 PM
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This is shocking to me. You're not getting it.
I do get it. You don't understand that I do not trust Donald Trump. Not only has he waffled on so many issues (sometimes contradicting himself in the same interview, for crying out loud) - to the point where we have no idea what his policies will be - he's also an admitted supporter of Hillary Clinton. The man has donated to her in the past, and he and BJ Clinton are good buddies.

Not only that, they're both friends with the known pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, and have both visited his private island.

I'm not saying the child assault allegations against Trump are true, but it is a fact that he's acquainted with a known pedophile.

It doesn't matter who wins this election. They're both horrible for this country, and I cannot bring myself to vote for either one of them.

If you don't get it now, then I can't explain it any clearer.
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You know what happens when you choose the lesser of two evils? You still end up with evil.
Until we have an election in which Jesus runs against the Devil, isn't voting for the lesser of two evils how ALL elections will be?
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