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Old 08-30-2017, 09:34 PM
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Re: Historical Accounts & Context for Black Traito

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JD - precisely!
You have wisely recognized that this is where identity politics gets us!
Trying to make up past problems and injustices to groups of people.
When some of the people in these groups were not even part of the original injustice.
But some people refuse to acknowledge the role of our history in our present day situations.

More than slavery, it was the federal government's failure to keep their promises to black Americans and all the other junk that persisted in this country for over 100 years after the Civil War that has a correlation with what is happening today.
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But some people refuse to acknowledge the role of our history in our present day situations.

Like the role the North's victory played in stripping the center of power from the states to Washington, the very thing the Founders did NOT want. And don't tell me that had to happen for blacks to be protected. It was unconstitutional and the north did what they did not for blacks, but to seize total control. This injustice needs to recognized

More than slavery, it was the federal government's failure to keep their promises to black Americans and all the other junk that persisted in this country for over 100 years after the Civil War that has a correlation with what is happening today.

They never intended on doing that , Jermyn (keeping their promise). The plan was to completely disenfranchise white southerners , install freed slaves and carpetbaggers as a "civilian" puppet regime, for as long as possible. They knew that the northern populace would eventually grow weary of this and come to the aid of southern whites, restoring them to political power in the south. But man, those were 12 good years of raping, stealing and pillaging by the Union! But all good things had to come to and end and the freed slaves were dropped like a hot potato and left to languish. Meanwhile, (and sadly) shortsighted white southerners used their re-enfranchisement to punish blacks for aiding their oppressors for 12 years. That is a sad legacy that none of us are proud of. But when you do that to the majority, they in turn rise up and do the same to the minority. Now if you are of the opinion that white southerners deserved whatever they got, even if it violated the Constitution, then nothing I wrote will matter to you.

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Re: Historical Accounts & Context for Black Traito

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But some people refuse to acknowledge the role of our history in our present day situations.

More than slavery, it was the federal government's failure to keep their promises to black Americans and all the other junk that persisted in this country for over 100 years after the Civil War that has a correlation with what is happening today.
JD - I agree with you in part.
Although I am somewhat confused as to what promises the government made that were broken.
As late as the 1970's the feds were participating in a plot to deprive black farmers of their lands, by denying them loans and insurance that they were giving to white farmers.
Maybe that is what you are referring to.
I will say that the "war on poverty" which has led to the destruction of the black family unit has been the biggest contributor to the prevention of advancement for many.
But, you do not find many willing to talk about this, as it is a sensitive subject.
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40 acres and a mule?

Oh well, I guess ya'll gonna have to tare down that Yankee General, William Tecumseh Sherman's statues.
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