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Old 07-28-2007, 05:43 PM
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Is it time to re-package the Apostolic message?
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:03 PM
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I was listening to Kenneth Phillips preach at the AWCF Conference, and he mentioned that it was time to re-package the Apostolic message.

I know that manufacturers of products upgrade their product packaging to reflect the current tastes and customs. For instance, Betty Crocker was changed from the 40's and 50's look into a more modern looking women.

As new ways to package items are invented, successful companies will try to upgrade their packaging. Colas and Ketchup used to always be packaged in glass bottles, but now they mostly use plastic packaging.

Is it time to re-package the Apostolic message?
I do not agree.

The Apostolic message need not be repackaged.

Perhaps KP needs to be repackaged. In fact, it might be a good idea if about 99.99% of all of the messengers (so called) of the Apostolic message were repackaged.

They need to be reclothed with a nice package of humility for starters. Then they need to be wraped in the paper of kindness of the color that shows the burning warmth of love. Next, they need a pretty ribbon of fleshly restraints of fasting and a lot of prayer, tied with a bow on the crow of the grace of Christ. Just for the beginning.
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:32 PM
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I do not agree.

The Apostolic message need not be repackaged.

Perhaps KP needs to be repackaged. In fact, it might be a good idea if about 99.99% of all of the messengers (so called) of the Apostolic message were repackaged.

They need to be reclothed with a nice package of humility for starters. Then they need to be wraped in the paper of kindness of the color that shows the burning warmth of love. Next, they need a pretty ribbon of fleshly restraints of fasting and a lot of prayer, tied with a bow on the crow of the grace of Christ. Just for the beginning.
...just for the beginning.

Then placed under the tree of righteousness as a free gift to the people of God as it should have been from the beginning. It is kind of tiring to see so many of them who have wrapped themselves in themselves and have become a gift to themselves. It would be wonderful to discover that the ministry is about more than just the minister.
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:47 PM
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It would be wonderful to discover that the ministry is about more than just the minister.
So true....of course every Born Again Christian show grow up to minister.............Aren't we all called to minister........if nothing else than to have a ministry that ministers the Love of Jesus to the unloved?
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:52 PM
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So true....of course every Born Again Christian show grow up to minister.............Aren't we all called to minister........if nothing else than to have a ministry that ministers the Love of Jesus to the unloved?
Amen.

Certainly the ministry is of no small responsibiity. It is a high and holy calling that must be carefully cultivated by all the graces that God has given us that we may appeal to the lost and discouraged by not only the message we preach but by our manner of life.
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:55 PM
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Amen.

Certainly the ministry is of no small responsibiity. It is a high and holy calling that must be carefully cultivated by all the graces that God has given us that we may appeal to the lost and discouraged by not only the message we preach but by our manner of life.
Agreed.

What was it that Jesus said? Oh yeah, "I come not to be ministered too, but to minister........." We'd all do good to live up to that. Like John the Baptist said "He must increase and I must decrease"..........
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I was listening to Kenneth Phillips preach at the AWCF Conference, and he mentioned that it was time to re-package the Apostolic message.

I know that manufacturers of products upgrade their product packaging to reflect the current tastes and customs. For instance, Betty Crocker was changed from the 40's and 50's look into a more modern looking women.

As new ways to package items are invented, successful companies will try to upgrade their packaging. Colas and Ketchup used to always be packaged in glass bottles, but now they mostly use plastic packaging.

Is it time to re-package the Apostolic message?
The last I heard the Apostolic message came from God.Man has manipulated it
way too much already.
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:34 AM
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Paul wasn't concerned with pretty packaging. Read his words in 2 Corinthians 11:23-27:

Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft. Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.

He wasn't concerned with making the Christian life look pretty. There are trials but the blessings, power, Spirit and eternity make it all worth it.

It is easy to live for God hard but it is hard to live for God easy.
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:58 AM
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The packaging doesn't make as much impact as the salesman does. Or the commercial, for that matter.

It isn't our job to make Christianity "look" better. We can start with ourselves and simply be a better product. Authentic Christianity (e.g., via a strong relationship with Jesus Christ) will naturally produce interest in the "consumer."
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Old 07-29-2007, 06:16 AM
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I was listening to Kenneth Phillips preach at the AWCF Conference, and he mentioned that it was time to re-package the Apostolic message.

I know that manufacturers of products upgrade their product packaging to reflect the current tastes and customs. For instance, Betty Crocker was changed from the 40's and 50's look into a more modern looking women.

As new ways to package items are invented, successful companies will try to upgrade their packaging. Colas and Ketchup used to always be packaged in glass bottles, but now they mostly use plastic packaging.

Is it time to re-package the Apostolic message?
No, but it is high time to re-package some Apostolics.
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