NEWSFLASH . . . UPC in Australia on Television!

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by CC1

Yup. What little video we do in house for image magnification is not very good. It is probably the weakest media link at Christ Church.

CC does great on publications, presentations, conferences, plays, etc but video is another story. Very sad and disturbing for me with my background in television production.

So??......This is where you step in and say, "I will" heeheeeeeeeeeeeee!

I am interested in the current format, fill us in please. Details man, we wants details.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

How many people would need to get saved in order to justify going on tv?

How about more than one? I understand that heaven rejoices over one soul and that one soul could be won before the Brothers ever get to the conference floor. They can go to Ybor City and win more than just one soul while the UPCI Brothers and Sisters are in Tampa in September. I think it's a little late for the Pentecostal Jesus name people to go on the blue tube.

Just like the scripture says, "who will go for us?" I shudder to think who will end up being on television.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

If heaven rejoices over ONE SOUL that repents, what would heaven's opinion be of the church on tv if a few dozen end up getting saved, or a few hundred or a few thousand?

Heaven's opinion? Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Faye, Herbert W. Armstrong, Ted Haggard, Jim Whittington, Jack & Rexela Van Impe, Morris Cerullo, WV Grant, Bob Larson, Gene Scott, Kenneth Copeland, Peter Popoff, Ted Garner Armstrong, A.A. Allen, Eral Paulk, does United Pentecostal International want to add themselves to this list?

Originally Posted by deacon blues

No one says the whole country will get saved as a result. But y'all act like if there are even meager results from televangelism, somehow heaven would look askance at the method.

The group above has caused more carnage than good in America country.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

How about giving us a break---vote yes on Res. #4 and I promise we'll leave you alone. Promise not to even make you watch tv on the cruise ship!

Vote a resounding NO on Res # 4 I promise you that you will never regret it in the future.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I think it's a little late for the Pentecostal Jesus name people to go on the blue tube.

When would have been the best time for Apostolics to go on TV? At the beginning when it was in it's infancy?

Being that we didn't have the foresight to get on TV then, when is the next best time to be on TV?

This reminds me of investors in the stockmarket. The best time to begin investing would have been years ago, because today that investment could have grown 10x the original value. The next best time to invest is NOW!!! The longer that you wait, the more it will cost!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

It helps that Nashville is the Hollywood of Christian music . . .

Actually that is not really a big help. Since Gospel music is so saturated here it is no big thing. In fact there are not really that many Gospel concerts here since they don't draw big crowds. People live and work and go to church with so many talented musicial people they just don't tend to spend the bucks for concerts.

Christ Church is blessed with great singers and musicans but I suspect that just about every church in Nashville is.

The growth of CC is an interesting one. It has had the same pastor for about 55 years. Church started with a handful of peple and had slow but steady growth the first 20 years or so. I remember visiting once back around 1978 and CC was only about 200-300 members.

In 1978 they built the new church that is now the chapel at our location. I believe it seated around 600 (in its present configuration it seats about 400).

The pastor left the UPC in 1986 which appears to be right in the middle of tremendous church growth. In 1989 they build the present sanctuary that seats about 2000. In a few short years they were at two main Sunday AM services there and by the time I moved here in 1999 both AM services were full.

I think the high visibility of the Christ Church Choir on some TV specials with country stars like Dolly Parton, etc probably really helped back in the late 80's early 90's but other than an appearance a few years ago backing up some country singer on one of the two major Country Music Awards telecast I don't think they have done that much "secular" television. It was kind of funny that last time they sang because the awards telecast was on a Wednesday night and not a peep was said from the pulpit about it. I guess the pastor didn't want church folks staying home to watch the choir on the awards show rather than coming to church.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

When would have been the best time for Apostolics to go on TV? At the beginning when it was in it's infancy?

Being that we didn't have the foresight to get on TV then, when is the next best time to be on TV?

This reminds me of investors in the stockmarket. The best time to begin investing would have been years ago, because today that investment could have grown 10x the original value. The next best time to invest is NOW!!! The longer that you wait, the more it will cost!

In it's infancy? We didn't have television until 1948. When television first came on the scene it was mandatory by law that it have a certain amount of religious programming, namely Christian. When that law ceased so did mandatory religious programming.

If you research the early days of religious programming, it was based more on information. As the 1950s approached religious television held its position until the faith healers went from the tent to the blue screen and televangelism was born. From religious information it evolved to wallet decimation. The public was then whisked into the 1980s with Jim and Tammy Faye and the 700 club.

Then the trap sprang! Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, and Robert Tilton, all proved charlatans. The television faithful were crushed by the horrible disappointment in being made dupes. To add insult to injury, these television showmen took Christian kindness for weakness. They returned to television, writing books. Tammy Faye returned to television surrounded by homosexuals, advocating their perverted causes.

Pianoman, Lord bless you. I have to say the One God Pentecostals are following up a nightmare. To foolishly think we will do better than these individuals is a mistake. Those televangelists are professional entertainers. The public is wise to them and when we saddle up and ride into their view the microscope will come out. I hope there will be no Ronald Nations and Lanny Wolfes found.

In Jesus Name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[CC1]

EB,

At least Robert Tilton proved that ANYBODY can find SOMEBODY to follow them. I remember watching his telecast with those overeaggerated expressions and thinking to msyelf "how in the world could anybody send this nut money?".

I would just shake my head and think that any person who sent him money deserved to be taken to the cleaners.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by CC1

EB,

At least Robert Tilton proved that ANYBODY can find SOMEBODY to follow them. I remember watching his telecast with those overeaggerated expressions and thinking to msyelf "how in the world could anybody send this nut money?".

I would just shake my head and think that any person who sent him money deserved to be taken to the cleaners.

Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh a.k.a OSHO (now deceased), has still a huge following. If you have ever read any of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh's writings you would be amazed how can anyone believe his foolishness.

What of "Heavens Gate?" the teaching of those leaders were (pardon the pun) out of this world. They received more than money, they took human lives and those lives went willingly.

What I'm saying is this, who will represent the Apostolic Pentecostal people on television? Who will best describe who we are? I strongly believe the issue of television is heading down the wrong road.


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

How about more than one? I understand that heaven rejoices over one soul and that one soul could be won before the Brothers ever get to the conference floor. They can go to Ybor City and win more than just one soul while the UPCI Brothers and Sisters are in Tampa in September. I think it's a little late for the Pentecostal Jesus name people to go on the blue tube.

Just like the scripture says, "who will go for us?" I shudder to think who will end up being on television.




Heaven's opinion? Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Faye, Herbert W. Armstrong, Ted Haggard, Jim Whittington, Jack & Rexela Van Impe, Morris Cerullo, WV Grant, Bob Larson, Gene Scott, Kenneth Copeland, Peter Popoff, Ted Garner Armstrong, A.A. Allen, Eral Paulk, does United Pentecostal International want to add themselves to this list?



The group above has caused more carnage than good in America country.



Vote a resounding NO on Res # 4 I promise you that you will never regret it in the future.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

I think you are correct.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

When would have been the best time for Apostolics to go on TV? At the beginning when it was in it's infancy?

Being that we didn't have the foresight to get on TV then, when is the next best time to be on TV?

This reminds me of investors in the stockmarket. The best time to begin investing would have been years ago, because today that investment could have grown 10x the original value. The next best time to invest is NOW!!! The longer that you wait, the more it will cost!

My friend get YOUR pastor to go on television he has no restrictions on him yet evidently he does not see the profit of it?

[COOPER]

The anti-TV croud are more conserned about Hiding their true Image from the public eye.

Holiness is not very photo-genic and the doctrines will be put under the micro-scope.