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Old 11-06-2007, 07:28 PM
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Again, leadership has been completely silent about this whole ordeal.

Strange.
Maybe they are practicing what we used to sing, but very seldom followed through with:


If I hold my piece (sp), let the Lord fight my battles...

Victory, victory shall be mine....
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:31 PM
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Again, leadership has been completely silent about this whole ordeal.

Strange.
PP, I am not sure there is anything to say that will change things. The bottom line is even repealing the vote would not pacify the Tulsa crowd.
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:36 PM
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PP, I am not sure there is anything to say that will change things. The bottom line is even repealing the vote would not pacify the Tulsa crowd.
True. Many of that "crowd" have been leaving over the last several years. This Res. #4 vote was simply a catalyst for others to go as well.
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:16 PM
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Again, leadership has been completely silent about this whole ordeal.

Strange.
Is it possible that they believe this "purging" process will be beneficial in the long run?

Is it possible they have observed the fissure growing for years and feel that this "split" is inevitable and that trying to artificially hold it together will only prolong the inevitable?
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:18 PM
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Is it possible that they believe this "purging" process will be beneficial in the long run?

Is it possible they have observed the fissure growing for years and feel that this "split" is inevitable and that trying to artificially hold it together will only prolong the inevitable?
Can you get a meeting with the general board and make your case?
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:26 PM
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Can you get a meeting with the general board and make your case?
LOL!! There are a lot of possible reasons UPC leadership may be silent including the one I gave.

Another might be that they feel that what is going to happen is inevitable and that if they try to actively keep it from happening by speaking out it would just make it even more high profile and could cause the situation to degenerate into name calling, bitterness, etc.
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:37 PM
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I have friends who are planning to go overseas as AIMers. They have raised their budget, but their home church has told them that the church will get them home if something happen that the org. cannot get them home when their term is over. I have also heard of a missionary couple who has been told by two different churches that they were not giving any more pledges to FM dept. I think the ripples are just being felt. I do not know how far the ripples will go.
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Please allow me to step in here.
First of all, best wishes to PP.

Locally, I could care less what happens to the org as it will not effect my church, we will roll on having great revival.

Finally, it breaks my heart what could happen in some areas with the possibility of a great number leaving and withholding finances, I fear some metro areas, and overseas missions works will bear the weight of this stupid rift...and while I don't take my self too serious, I believe God does.
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