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08-08-2012, 09:56 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Yes, absolutely. Nothing good comes from silencing people at this point. People need to talk. Sometimes people don't get all the facts straight but everyone should know and be aware that this is discussion that comes from grief, it is not facts lined up, it is not mediation, it is not both sides telling their story. It is simply an avenue of reflection, to express grief, to get a back rub, to help take a deep breath and move forward.
Too often, people are told to suck it up when they have guts hanging all over the place. It is too soon to suck it up.
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You have problably never met anyone like the "daughter". There was a "meeting" to discuss and vote on the boyfriend. It got ugly. When different ones spoke out, the "daughter" and boyfriend got very loud, told them to sit down, asked the ushers to sit them down, said things about people in the congregation ,about their finances, that everyone knew wasn't true. The daughter should not have even discussed a members giving in front of the church. Most of the people just sat there shocked. I would have just left, and said GOODBYE!! They won't get off that easy tho. I'm sure the IRS is looking!
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08-08-2012, 11:20 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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I doubt there was genuine concern at all.
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Really? Your discernment is in need of repair!
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08-08-2012, 11:39 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
The church sign in front of "GR" last month, said "Don't judge me because my sins are different than yours". Now, what does that mean?
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08-08-2012, 12:09 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
Not quite sorry your colon's twisted. It is obvious. I know how pentecostals work. Been there. Done that. Bought the t-shirt. Sold it in a yard sale.
Proof? Thread started in Fellowship Hall. There is a Prayer Request section. People are using this thread as an excuse to "trash" people. The IRS has ramped up investigating churches. Let the IRS do the dirty work.
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Really? Your discernment is in need of repair!
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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08-08-2012, 12:27 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by tv1a
Not quite sorry your colon's twisted. It is obvious. I know how pentecostals work. Been there. Done that. Bought the t-shirt. Sold it in a yard sale.
Proof? Thread started in Fellowship Hall. There is a Prayer Request section. People are using this thread as an excuse to "trash" people. The IRS has ramped up investigating churches. Let the IRS do the dirty work.
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To say that there is no genuine concern is very judgmental and w-a-a-a-a-a-y off base! Work on that discernment thing!
This thread wasn't started as a prayer request, although prayer is welcomed and sought. This thread was started to INFORM those in the Apostolic community that a travesty was taking place at this church, and that innocent saints were being abused! Do people need to know that things like this can happen in some of our churches? YES!!
You are apparently questioning my motives and the motives of others. I can't speak for the others, but you are not even in the same zip code as to what my motives were and are.
Maybe being judgmental is your thing, but at least you could work on being more hearty.
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08-08-2012, 12:28 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
I personally appreciate this thread. I've said some things I've needed to get off my chest for years.....
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08-08-2012, 12:51 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Not quite sorry your colon's twisted. It is obvious. I know how pentecostals work. Been there. Done that. Bought the t-shirt. Sold it in a yard sale.
Proof? Thread started in Fellowship Hall. There is a Prayer Request section. People are using this thread as an excuse to "trash" people. The IRS has ramped up investigating churches. Let the IRS do the dirty work.
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WOW!!! You sound like someone I do my best to stay away from!!!!
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08-08-2012, 12:52 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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I personally appreciate this thread. I've said some things I've needed to get off my chest for years.....
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You don't know how much I've enjoyed reading your comments!!
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08-08-2012, 12:54 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
As some one put so eloquently. What good has this thread done? Pursue legal action? The Bible says we shouldn't take things to court. The main focus is lost in this situation. Bothe sides need to figure out what's more important. Winning the lost or getting in a peeing contest over power and property.
Lost souls are the real losers in this war.
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Originally Posted by StillStanding
To say that there is no genuine concern is very judgmental and w-a-a-a-a-a-y off base! Work on that discernment thing!
This thread wasn't started as a prayer request, although prayer is welcomed and sought. This thread was started to INFORM those in the Apostolic community that a travesty was taking place at this church, and that innocent saints were being abused! Do people need to know that things like this can happen in some of our churches? YES!!
You are apparently questioning my motives and the motives of others. I can't speak for the others, but you are not even in the same zip code as to what my motives were and are.
Maybe being judgmental is your thing, but at least you could work on being more hearty.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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08-08-2012, 01:16 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
As some one put so eloquently. What good has this thread done? Pursue legal action? The Bible says we shouldn't take things to court. The main focus is lost in this situation. Bothe sides need to figure out what's more important. Winning the lost or getting in a peeing contest over power and property.
Lost souls are the real losers in this war.
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Originally Posted by StillStanding
To say that there is no genuine concern is very judgmental and w-a-a-a-a-a-y off base! Work on that discernment thing!
This thread wasn't started as a prayer request, although prayer is welcomed and sought. This thread was started to INFORM those in the Apostolic community that a travesty was taking place at this church, and that innocent saints were being abused! Do people need to know that things like this can happen in some of our churches? YES!!
You are apparently questioning my motives and the motives of others. I can't speak for the others, but you are not even in the same zip code as to what my motives were and are.
Maybe being judgmental is your thing, but at least you could work on being more hearty.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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