All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by B4 Nicaea

According to your beliefs page, y'all believe in the trinity.

http://faithassembly.org/our-beliefs/

There is only One True God–revealed in three persons…Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (commonly known as the Trinity).

Not trying to be difficult, but I've never known an A/G church that:
1. Did not believe in the trinity.
2. Baptized anyone in the name of Jesus.

I don't think you're being difficult.

I have heard and seen the ministers of our church baptize new believers invoking the phrases, "in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost in Jesus Name," and "in the Name of the Father, and in the Name of His Son Jesus Christ, and in the Name of the Holy Ghost."

There isn't a water baptism performed here without the mention of the Name of Jesus-- unlike a COGIC church I attended briefly where the Pastor said he invoked the Name of Jesus during baptisms, but really didn't.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I don't think you're being difficult.

I have heard and seen the ministers of our church baptize new believers invoking the phrases, "in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost in Jesus Name," and "in the Name of the Father, and in the Name of His Son Jesus Christ, and in the Name of the Holy Ghost."

There isn't a water baptism performed here without the mention of the Name of Jesus-- unlike a COGIC church I attended briefly where the Pastor said he invoked the Name of Jesus during baptisms, but really didn't.

Ya that's not real Jesus name baptism..

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Ya that's not real Jesus name baptism..

NOPE!

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Ya that's not real Jesus name baptism..

So the name of Jesus is so weak that the mention of the words "Father" or "Holy Ghost" in baptism somehow cancels out its power? You guys just don't know how ridiculous you sound. Your view of God's saving power is so weak that it can easily be toppled by WORDS of mere men!!

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Originalist

So the name of Jesus is so weak that the mention of the words "Father" or "Holy Ghost" in baptism somehow cancels out its power? You guys just don't know how ridiculous you sound. Your view of God's saving power is so weak that it can easily be toppled by WORDS of mere men!!

They are not talking about the same Jesus that I serve.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

They are not talking about the same Jesus that I serve.

Which Jesus do you serve, the one who died on the cross or the one who watched from heaven and to whom the one who died was calling out to? (Trying to stick with the bloodless two Jesus oneness pentecostal theology here folks)

What about the redemptive blood of the Jesus you serve? When was that imputed to you? Don't like blood discussions do ya?

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

They are not talking about the same Jesus that I serve.

You are sadly falling into the trap of legalism.

When I handed in my license with the AoG back in 1993 to join the UPC, I didn't embrace a new Jesus . I didn't receive a different Holy Ghost. The same Spirit of Jesus Christ that first convicted me of sin at an EPISCOPAL Christian School when I was 10 years old was the same Spirit of Jesus that heard my cry of repentance at a Pentecostal Holiness Church altar 5 years later, and was the same Jesus that baptized me with the Holy Ghost a few days later, and was the same Spirit of Jesus Christ that began to use me and called me into the ministry at 16 yrs of age, and was the same Jesus that led me into more truth in 1992 when I was re-baptized in his name.

Your statement has to be one of the most arrogant, devilish, delusional piles of babble I've ever heard.

Why don't you man up now, oh mighty judge and just go ahead and and say that it was not the "real" Jesus that convicted me back in 1975 (as he's done millions of other people in Trinitarian churches). Go ahead big man and disregard David Wilkerson's ministry in New York where Jesus set free THOUSANDS of hardened gang members and drug addicts. Was that another Jesus? Go ahead and say it wasn't the "real" Holy Ghost that I received from the "real" Jesus back in 1981. Go and and say that I must not really have the "real" Holy Ghost now since I haven't sought the "real" Holy Ghost since joining the Oneness ranks. Do it if you dare. Go ahead, play God.

You are guilty of the same thing the Pharisees were when they refused to praise God for miracles done by Jesus, even going so far as to attribute them to Satan. You are denying God of glory. You are on dangerous ground and your fall is imminent.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Which Jesus do you serve, the one who died on the cross or the one who watched from heaven and to whom the one who died was calling out to? (Trying to stick with the bloodless two Jesus oneness pentecostal theology here folks)

What about the redemptive blood of the Jesus you serve? When was that imputed to you? Don't like blood discussions do ya?

You may be right about him. But please don't paint us all with the same brush. I can't sing a song about the blood without weeping like a baby. I rest completely in his sacrifice. Like Paul, I will not glory save in the cross of Christ.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Originalist

You may be right about him. But please don't paint us all with the same brush. I can't sing a song about the blood without weeping like a baby. I rest completely in his sacrifice. Like Paul, I will not glory save in the cross of Christ.

It's hard not to paint with the same brush when all evade discussion concerning when and how the blood of the Lamb is imputed unto a person according to oneness pentecostalism.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Originalist

You are sadly falling into the trap of legalism.

When I handed in my license with the AoG back in 1993 to join the UPC, I didn't embrace a new Jesus . I didn't receive a different Holy Ghost. The same Spirit of Jesus Christ that first convicted me of sin at an EPISCOPAL Christian School when I was 10 years old was the same Spirit of Jesus that heard my cry of repentance at a Pentecostal Holiness Church altar 5 years later, and was the same Jesus that baptized me with the Holy Ghost a few days later, and was the same Spirit of Jesus Christ that began to use me and called me into the ministry at 16 yrs of age, and was the same Jesus that led me into more truth in 1992 when I was re-baptized in his name.

Your statement has to be one of the most arrogant, devilish, delusional piles of babble I've ever heard.

Why don't you man up now, oh mighty judge and just go ahead and and say that it was not the "real" Jesus that convicted me back in 1975 (as he's done millions of other people in Trinitarian churches). Go ahead big man and disregard David Wilkerson's ministry in New York where Jesus set free THOUSANDS of hardened gang members and drug addicts. Was that another Jesus? Go ahead and say it wasn't the "real" Holy Ghost that I received from the "real" Jesus back in 1981. Go and and say that I must not really have the "real" Holy Ghost now since I haven't sought the "real" Holy Ghost since joining the Oneness ranks. Do it if you dare. Go ahead, play God.

You are guilty of the same thing the Pharisees were when they refused to praise God for miracles done by Jesus, even going so far as to attribute them to Satan. You are denying God of glory. You are on dangerous ground and your fall is imminent.

Call me what you want but If they deny Jesus is the father then they are serving another Jesus.