If they have a legitimate point,
why have so many of them died while handling snakes,when all they were trying to do is glorify God? They're obeying God's word... and end up getting killed for it? Sorry. I'm just not getting that.
(I'm assuming assume you know theres a difference between the letter of the law and the spirit/intent.)
Yes, I believe that ultra-literal application of
the letter of the word, rather than
the spirit of the word can often be foolish, such as the position you are advocating or defending.
I'm name-calling? What name did I call you? Now you're being hyper-sensitive brother. No one called you any names. To say that someone is defending a foolish point is not to say the person is a fool.
No one called you a fool. No need to put words in my mouth. If you feel foolish because some of us here are telling you we think your point is weak, then thats on you, but no one is calling you any names.
Lemme ask this.. when you claimed I was taking "a silly stance" back on --> that TDJakes thread (see post #46) ... should I consider that to be "name-calling" on your part? If it was, then maybe we both owe each other an apology.
TV1...this is not the Nickelodeon or Disney board brother, this is an Apostolic discussion forum. If you are so easily offended then maybe you should pray for tougher skin. People are going to strongly disagree with your points sometimes, so as long as
no one is disrespecting you, its counterproductive to get all offended because
someone strongly disagrees with your point.
My Reckart-like post? Now THAT's funny. I'm not sure if I was supposed to be offended or amused by that. But I did find it amusing.
OK...ding ding ding !! There we see it.
(Look at what you wrote there. Look real close. And think about what you're really saying or implying there)
That is the key difference between you and me on this issue. If we are to put
no conditions (?) on it, then you're saying maybe its ok to
unconditionally and indiscriminately drink some cyanide to glorify God? In that case then how about if someone decided he was going to drink some cyanide every morning to prove God? Why do you think church folks don't actually do that in the real world? Would you think that's wise? God gives us the gift of common sense, bro. Even when something is written in black and white of scripture, there is still a place for God-given common sense in
applying the word situationally.
There are many verses of scripture that, that if a person were to always apply them literally, unconditionally, and indiscriminately, would and could lead a person into a physically and spiritually dangerous situation far outside the intended meaning of the particular scripture.
I could give you many such examples, but
let me just give you 2 real quick. Jesus says if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. So if a man has a problem with looking lustfully at women,
do you think Jesus demands that the man pluck an eye out? Or if he has problem with stealing,
do you think Jesus wants him to literally chop his hands off? The answer there would be no, as I guess you also know.
Now someone could literally pluck his eye out in that situation, and "back it up" with scripture. But how many of us would think the man applied that passage correctly for the situation? I would think probably none.
I have to seriously wonder how much you've thought through your positions. Its as if you say something, and you feel you have to defend your point to the death, even when others are showing you clear shortcomings in your argument. (This is not our first time butting heads, TV1 ; I'm beginning to sense a pattern here)
And then you accuse me of articulating:
I'm not thinking it through?
Um... that's not even making sense right now, buddy.
As for me, I think I've actually spent more time on this than it really deserves.
You certainly don't have to listen to me, but feel free to listen to some of the other points others have made on this same thread. It doesn't make sense sometimes to assume that everybody else got it wrong but you.
Have a good day sir.
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