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Old 01-01-2008, 10:14 AM
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well, I am sad to know this. I will be praying for them more. They sing beautifully.
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:14 AM
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Hemphill's lack of incarnation doctrine is shocking, to say the least. The spirit of antichrist denies that JESUS IS COME IN THE FLESH. In order for one to COME IN THE FLESH, one has to pre-exist fleshly birth! That means Jesus is God! And that is the reason 1 John speaks of Jesus come in the flesh as well as God being seen in us when we love one another. The entire point John was making was that God manifests in flesh, whether it is through us as we love one another, proving God is in us, or Himself incarnating, as seen in the phrase "Jesus is come in the flesh."

We cannot say that each of us "came in the flesh" because that would imply we existed before our fleshly existence, since one has to exist before one can COME in flesh. We did not exist until our fleshly existence came into being with our souls and spirits.
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:19 AM
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:23 AM
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Ok! I stand corrected!!!! I went back and read the pamphlets and he does refute trinitarian doctrine, but he also does say that Jesus was not God. He had so many scriptures about the Lord being one God, that I thought it was oneness upon first glance.

Sorry for the confusion! He is definitely into some weird ideas.
If believes that Jesus was not God. Then he needs to take a step up just to be a Trinitarian.

I think not believing Jesus is both God and Man is the most dangerous position of them all.

Without him being god the death on calvary is void and powerless.

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Old 01-01-2008, 11:24 AM
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The Late William Sowders was the primary leader of a group of Pentecostals that had their roots in the early years of the Amercian Pentecostal movement. The group spilt up after his death most are called The Gospel Assembly or something like that. They have a large church in Houston and there is one in San Antonio.
Sowders taught the Jehovah Witness view of the Godhead that there are two Gods that is their terminology not mine. Jehovah is God senior and Jesus is God junior. Jesus was Micheal the archangel before Bethlehem.
They claim to baptize in Jesus Name however their view is quite different they teach all organizations are part of Babylon therefore they do not baptize in Jesus Name only the Body of Christ(which is them)can baptize in Jesus Name although they may baptize and say nothing. Or I saw one baptize a convert in "the name of heaven once?"
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No Hell
144,000 are the Bride
Perfection to the extent to be perfect no physical relations with their companions,(not many have reached this)
The truth is being restored.
The devil is the flesh there is not an evil spirit in opposition to God only the carnal mind.
Sex was the sin in the garden that Eve committed with her husband!
and many other absurd teachings.
Br Epley,
Is there a book or a website I can view for more information?
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:25 AM
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If believes that Jesus was not God. Then he needs to take a step up just to be a Trinitarian.
Right. At least trinitarians believe that Jesus is GOD.
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http://www.gospelassemblyfree.com/gac/sowdersintro.html
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EXCERPT FROM DAVID BERNARD'S BOOK, The Oneness of God:

"We have already discussed that "Son of God" refers to the humanity of Jesus. Clearly the humanity of Jesus is not eternal but was born in Bethlehem. One can speak of eternality - past, present, and future - only with respect to God. Since "Son of God" refers to humanity or deity as manifest in humanity, the idea of an eternal Son is incomprehensible. The Son of God had a beginning."
Many believe that the 'Fullness of the Godhead dwelling in Christ". Referred to the fact that the Fullness of God was completed at Bethlehem.

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If believes that Jesus was not God. Then he needs to take a step up just to be a Trinitarian.

I think not believing Jesus is both God and Man is the most dangerous position of them all.

Without him being god the death on calvary is void and powerless.

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If believes that Jesus was not God. Then he needs to take a step up just to be a Trinitarian.

I think not believing Jesus is both God and Man is the most dangerous position of them all.

Without him being god the death on calvary is void and powerless.

Nathan Eckstadt
So true...blessing to you and yours and happy new year.
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