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Old 03-14-2007, 03:15 PM
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My principles (I don't have any principals) are satisfied by loosing - by setting free - a government that is in bondage.

Typical, selfish, worldly attitude! It's all about winning with people like you. Go ahead and prostitute yourself to the horse with the best showing and show yourself to be the mindless sheeple that the Democrats and Republicans believe you to be.

This is proof you don't know what you're talking about. Go look at the history of some of these other parties. Here's a brief history of the Libertarian Party: http://www.lp.org/organization/history.shtml









If you want to use the force of government to make others pay for your favorite social programs, you might be a Democrat.

If you want to use the power of government to control other people’s relationships and personal decisions, you might be a Republican.


If you want to use the government to demand tax dollars for your latest environmental fad, you might be a Green.
If you believe the only moral basis for government is the protection of individual rights; if you believe the use of aggressive force can never be justified; if you believe “ that government is best which governs the least” as Thomas Jefferson did, you might be a Libertarian.
nice. Ive got a typical worldly attitude because I care about winning. Dude, you may know something about worldy attitudes, oh say like a haughty spirit?

Here is the FACTUAL history of these third parties. THEY AINT WON JACK yet they run some dude for president like it matters and call me worldly for not voting for their brand of mad dog 20/20. lay off that stuff man it will make you go blind!

you want history? look at real history. Third Parties win when they start working from the ground and build something substantial.

just go vote for ron paul and be proud of yourself Chan.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:17 PM
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nice. Ive got a typical worldly attitude because I care about winning. Dude, you may know something about worldy attitudes, oh say like a haughty spirit?

Here is the FACTUAL history of these third parties. THEY AINT WON JACK yet they run some dude for president like it matters and call me worldly for not voting for their brand of mad dog 20/20. lay off that stuff man it will make you go blind!

you want history? look at real history. Third Parties win when they start working from the ground and build something substantial.

just go vote for ron paul and be proud of yourself Chan.
Ron Paul is NOT running 3rd party...
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:19 PM
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Chancellor, IMO, Ferd has a great point.
Yes, it's a great principle. Imagine loosing the government from its bondage to our tax dollars and to controlling our lives.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:20 PM
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No one ever said that their principles are satisfied BY losing.

What fool would finally feel satisfied if they lost.

All people are saying is that standing by their principles are more important than being on the winning side.

Also... Ron Paul is running for the Republican Candidacy... he isn't running third party...

Do you feel it necessary to vote for one of the other possible Republican Candidates rather than Ron Paul? Just asking....

I don't understand why voting for Ron Paul rather than the other Republican presidential candidates is problematic.

I come closer to seeing the problem if he was running 3rd party... or... like Ferd... if you just don't like the guy.... but you like him... so why do you feel it is a bad thing to vote for him in the Republican Presidential Primary?
He, of course, Digging is just making a point. How can you vote for someone that is going to lose and you know they are going to lose? It's like giving your vote away.

We virtually stay on top of the whole process and know the outcome before it comes. I knew Gore wasn't going to win as much as you did.

Ron Paul is running on the Republican ticket and I will be watching that very closely.

I think, though, at this time security is on the minds of every American and Giuliani knows how to bring it. I'm not sure this country is that concerned about our Constitution. They don't really believe it's in as much jeopardy, IMO. Or at least they are more concerned with others issues.
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Yes, it's a great principle. Imagine loosing the government from its bondage to our tax dollars and to controlling our lives.
I can't imagine what it would be like to sit and have a cup of coffee with you. lol!

I do like your posting style, Chancellor. Please don't get me wrong.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:23 PM
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He, of course, Digging is just making a point. How can you vote for someone that is going to lose and you know they are going to lose? It's like giving your vote away.
Ahhhhhhhhhh... See I am not as clairevoyant and do not know that he is going to lose.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:26 PM
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Ahhhhhhhhhh... See I am not as clairevoyant and do not know that he is going to lose.
LOL! I wish he would win. I just don't see it yet. Let' see as time progresses.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:29 PM
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LOL! I wish he would win. I just don't see it yet. Let' see as time progresses.
Indeed... a good ol' honest... lets see... is all one can ask.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:30 PM
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nice. Ive got a typical worldly attitude because I care about winning. Dude, you may know something about worldy attitudes, oh say like a haughty spirit?
Yes, being more concerned about winning than about principle is a worldly attitude.

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Here is the FACTUAL history of these third parties. THEY AINT WON JACK yet they run some dude for president like it matters and call me worldly for not voting for their brand of mad dog 20/20. lay off that stuff man it will make you go blind!
The factual history is that there are two Independents (a third party) in Congress. Jesse Ventura was governor of Minnesota under the Reform Party (a third party). There are various local offices that are, in fact, held by third party people.

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you want history? look at real history. Third Parties win when they start working from the ground and build something substantial.
Parties win when people VOTE for them.

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just go vote for ron paul and be proud of yourself Chan.
If he wins the Republican nomination, perhaps. Otherwise, since I'm not a Republican, I won't be voting in the primary. As for being proud, pride is sin.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:31 PM
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I tell you this much. I am not making any dicisions about who i am voting for right now. there are more than a few out there and the field needs to clear up. right now we dont even know who is running...

I like Fred Thompson. he is an actor! they make great presidents, or so ive heard.
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