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Old 11-18-2008, 05:34 PM
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As Ferd so aptly explained, there isn't much a President, or congress, can do to turn back abortion, other than appointing supreme court justices who would be in favor of overturning it, and enacting laws limiting how legal abortions can be performed. Republicans have done both...Democrats have done neither.
Republicans have appointed 7 of the 9 current Justices. The recent Republican candidate said that he would not allow Roe vs. Wade decide who he appoints....how many years before people start demanding specifics up front?
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Republicans have appointed 7 of the 9 current Justices. The recent Republican candidate said that he would not allow Roe vs. Wade decide who he appoints....how many years before people start demanding specifics up front?
You are right... I wish we would. But you and I appear to represent a minority. Practically, we are now a post-Christian (and post moral) nation.
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:50 PM
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You are right... I wish we would. But you and I appear to represent a minority. Practically, we are now a post-Christian (and post moral) nation.
Stephen, I think we got ourselves in this position by being satisfied or manipulated by rhetoric during election cycles since they tapped into our morality so skillfully. By now it may simply be too late and I hate that.
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tstew, seems I asked you this before... but I forget... do you/did you vote?
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:41 PM
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Republicans have appointed 7 of the 9 current Justices. The recent Republican candidate said that he would not allow Roe vs. Wade decide who he appoints....how many years before people start demanding specifics up front?
The fact remains that with McCain, there was a decent chance of a conservative appointment, if there was an appointment at all. And with a conservative appointment, there's a chance of getting someone who opposes abortion. See, there's a CHANCE.

With Obama, you better believe he'll make a point to appoint someone who is absolutely PRO abortion.

But that's ok...He's going to CHANGE things...wonderful.
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tstew, seems I asked you this before... but I forget... do you/did you vote?
I was away and just saw this. I didn't see where you had asked me before. I had a long PM discussion about this with someone else, but I don't mind saying publically that I could not bring myself to vote for either party.
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The fact remains that with McCain, there was a decent chance of a conservative appointment, if there was an appointment at all. And with a conservative appointment, there's a chance of getting someone who opposes abortion. See, there's a CHANCE.

With Obama, you better believe he'll make a point to appoint someone who is absolutely PRO abortion.

But that's ok...He's going to CHANGE things...wonderful.
...and Obama doesn't have any problem telling you that whoever he appoints will absolutely uphold Roe v Wade...and if he didn't say that in black and white, his constituents would kill him and his political career would be over because the left demands that their representatives govern in a way that reflects what's important to them.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:17 PM
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...and Obama doesn't have any problem telling you that whoever he appoints will absolutely uphold Roe v Wade...and if he didn't say that in black and white, his constituents would kill him and his political career would be over because the left demands that their representatives govern in a way that reflects what's important to them.
Which is why Christians should not have voted for him.
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I was away and just saw this. I didn't see where you had asked me before. I had a long PM discussion about this with someone else, but I don't mind saying publically that I could not bring myself to vote for either party.
I gathered that much - from our interactions I guess.

I felt the same way in 2000 and voted for Pat Buchanan
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Which is why Christians should not have voted for him.
I don't think he is making a case FOR Obama - just saying the left will give commitments, so what is wrong with the right?
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