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Re: Were The Israelites Black?
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I see that folks want to ignore history and facts concerning other cultures.
I'm not racist and I'm far from being 'white'. I'm just not politically correct it seems and that always brings out those who cannot handle truth plainly presented. Cultures are different. Some are more advanced than others. Been that way for thousands of years now and will continue to be that way.
Israelites were not Black Africans. That's swill from a racist system...if you're interested in identifying racism. Doubt you'll call the 'black israelites' racist though.
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I don't think anyone said Israelites were African.
The problem everyone has is your position that Africans were just a bunch of useless humans hanging out in grass huts for all of their history.
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07-16-2010, 08:38 PM
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Re: Were The Israelites Black?
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I see that folks want to ignore history and facts concerning other cultures.
I'm not racist and I'm far from being 'white'. I'm just not politically correct it seems and that always brings out those who cannot handle truth plainly presented. Cultures are different. Some are more advanced than others. Been that way for thousands of years now and will continue to be that way.
Israelites were not Black Africans. That's swill from a racist system...if you're interested in identifying racism. Doubt you'll call the 'black israelites' racist though.
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The "black israelites" I know of (2 of them) are not hateful, but they are definitely BIG on the superiority of the Black Jews to their white non-brothers.
So, I can say without reservation that the members of the "Black Israelite" sect that I know of are racists.
If that was your point, you could have said that from the beginning instead of spewing your vomit on us.
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Re: Were The Israelites Black?
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I don't think anyone said Israelites were African.
The problem everyone has is your position that Africans were just a bunch of useless humans hanging out in grass huts for all of their history.
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The "Black Israelites" say the Israelites were Black Africans. That's a lie. For some reason I've not seen anyone comment on the pure racism position of the 'Black Israelites'.
And no human is useless. Some are more advanced culturally and more productive than others though, like it or not.
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07-16-2010, 08:44 PM
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Re: Were The Israelites Black?
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The "Black Israelites" say the Israelites were Black Africans. That's a lie. For some reason I've not seen anyone comment on the pure racism position of the 'Black Israelites'.
And no human is useless. Some are more advanced culturally and more productive than others though, like it or not.
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I think Esther said something like this to me one day, though it was on a totally different subject:
"None so blind as those who will not see."
Your views, as presented, reflect your desperate need for an education and for God to deal with your heart in relation to the Africans you have summed up as ignorant.
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Re: Were The Israelites Black?
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The "Black Israelites" say the Israelites were Black Africans. That's a lie. For some reason I've not seen anyone comment on the pure racism position of the 'Black Israelites'.
And no human is useless. Some are more advanced culturally and more productive than others though, like it or not.
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Somehow the first part of your post has not come across as what you are trying to say...though I don't disagree.
Advancement of a civilization varies throughout history, and to make such a blanket statement smacks of racism.
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Re: Were The Israelites Black?
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I think Esther said something like this to me one day, though it was on a totally different subject:
"None so blind as those who will not see."
Your views, as presented, reflect your desperate need for an education and for God to deal with your heart in relation to the Africans you have summed up as ignorant.
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Why must one discard truth in order to be politically correct?
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Why must one discard truth in order to be politically correct?
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Well one immediate truth at hand is the FACT that I have stated that the "Black Israelites" I know of are racists.
However, not all of "Black Israelites" are racist in their theology-- false doctrine.
Another truth is that you have presented yourself in a way that makes you seem ignorant and racist yourself.
Honestly, I just don't think you were serious in the way you presented yourself-- you really don't think this way.
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Re: Were The Israelites Black?
seekerman, once you decide to seek out information on the history of the African continent and her people, decide to seek out information on the various "Black Israelite" sects in America.
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Re: Were The Israelites Black?
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The "Black Israelites" say the Israelites were Black Africans. That's a lie. For some reason I've not seen anyone comment on the pure racism position of the 'Black Israelites'.
And no human is useless. Some are more advanced culturally and more productive than others though, like it or not.
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That's because they are dealing with your outrageous claims about "black africans"
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Re: Were The Israelites Black?
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Nobody suggested discarding truth. Nobody here, not one person, says the "black Israelis" are the true Israelis. It's your outrageous claims about black Africans they have an issue with
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