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Old 09-20-2010, 04:23 PM
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I lived most of my childhood in fear. Because of the way evangelists preached about hell. I could never be good enough to not go to hell. Probably more than a few of us heard the stories about people having a chance to get saved, but rejected God instead. Then they died in a horrible car accident on their way home from church. That is not in any way a great way to view God.
Very sad, but very true.
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:39 PM
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I lived most of my childhood in fear. Because of the way evangelists preached about hell. I could never be good enough to not go to hell. Probably more than a few of us heard the stories about people having a chance to get saved, but rejected God instead. Then they died in a horrible car accident on their way home from church. That is not in any way a great way to view God.
Sadly, there was (and still is) a sort of competition among preachers over who could be the "toughest" about any particular subject. NA Urshan even remarked about this in a message he preached at GC back in the late 1970s where he observed the "fads" that "our preachers" go through. One such fad was the "Tough Preacher."

For whatever reason, this problem was of such a concern that Bro. Urshan preached the same message repeatedly around the country - including in our church when he visited there.
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:44 PM
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Sadly, there was (and still is) a sort of competition among preachers over who could be the "toughest" about any particular subject. NA Urshan even remarked about this in a message he preached at GC back in the late 1970s where he observed the "fads" that "our preachers" go through. One such fad was the "Tough Preacher."

For whatever reason, this problem was of such a concern that Bro. Urshan preached the same message repeatedly around the country - including in our church when he visited there.
Was this the same NAU message that invariably included the Siberian Seven who were oneness for generations? And did he preach this is his stylish white suit and white shoes?
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:50 PM
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Was this the same NAU message that invariably included the Siberian Seven who were oneness for generations? And did he preach this is his stylish white suit and white shoes?
It was the "white shoe era" - but the "Urshanites" in Russia had yet to be "discovered."
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According to an account in the British press, the book says Michelle Obama complained about her life in the White House during a private dinner with the French first couple. The book quotes her as saying, in response to a question about being first lady: "Don't ask! It's hell. I can't stand it!"
There is a great circling of wagons and denial that the statement was ever made. it may still be true?

It is not PC to talk about hell.
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:46 PM
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There is a great circling of wagons and denial that the statement was ever made. it may still be true?

It is not PC to talk about hell.
There is an annoying gnat in this thread that utters "Obama" at every breathe.

Can someone please, please, please kill it?
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:48 PM
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There is an annoying gnat in this thread that utters "Obama" at every breathe.

Can someone kill it?
Thank you, I think Coadie is just too smart for me. I can't understand most of his posts.
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There is an annoying gnat in this thread that utters "Obama" at every breathe.

Can someone please, please, please kill it?
EDITED: I've been asking myself that question: What the.... errr.. what does this have to do with hell? LOL

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Old 09-20-2010, 04:54 PM
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EDITED: I've been asking myself that question: What the.... errr.. what does this have to do with hell? LOL
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Me too, I just didn't post it quite that way.....
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:58 PM
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Re: Has Hell Disappeared?

I have another question. Why did hell suddenly APPEAR, God's torture chamber, after 4000 years of silence about such a place? The only hell seen in the bible for quite a while was sheol, the grave, not some torture chamber God prepared for those who are displeasing to Him and on whom He will take out His wrath for their lacking to properly acknowledge Him.

If God's torture chamber actually exists where individuals are going to be horribly tormented due to their failures, shouldn't that place have been at the forefront of the pre-NT 4000 years of God interacting with mankind and not some relatively recent NT phenomenon?
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