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07-19-2011, 01:42 PM
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Re: Allowing children to seek the Holy Ghost?
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I can make it more interesting. I was 14 years old, a freshman in high school, when God got ahold of me. My friends and I had already been experimenting with alcohol in grade school and high school held the promise of more adventures. I thank God that He had other ideas for me.
As for Catholics and Lutherans embracing alcohol consumption...WISCONSIN embraces alcohol consumption period. My fellow Wisconsinites on here can verify its a serious issue in this state and starts very young. But thats a whole nother topic.
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Indeed. Wisconsin is among the highest in the nation for alcohol abuse. I think I read something like eight percent are alcoholics.
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07-19-2011, 01:45 PM
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Re: Allowing children to seek the Holy Ghost?
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i was baptized at the age of 5 (not sure why i wanted to be at such a young age) i was filled with the Holy Ghost at age 9. My boys have all been baptized before age 10 and all received the Holy Ghost, at different ages but within 3 yrs of each other. Yes I can say I was afraid, afraid that if I died without the Holy Ghost I would not make it to heaven.
as for my boys, they have never been forced to the alter, nor to baptism. they have all come to want baptized by teaching at home, church, and in Bible classes at church. They have come to receive the Holy Ghost, not from SEEKING TONGUES, but from worship and praise of GOD.
It does my heart good to see children and young people worshiping and praising our GOD. He is worthy of ALL our praise.
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That's the way it should be!
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-19-2011, 01:51 PM
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Re: Allowing children to seek the Holy Ghost?
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Indeed. Wisconsin is among the highest in the nation for alcohol abuse. I think I read something like eight percent are alcoholics.
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Well, 1% of Wisconsins are pentecostal and about 52% are Catholic or Lutheran combined.
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07-19-2011, 01:57 PM
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Re: Allowing children to seek the Holy Ghost?
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Well, 1% of Wisconsins are pentecostal and about 52% are Catholic or Lutheran combined.
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really doesn't answer any questions per capita, per church does it?
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-19-2011, 02:02 PM
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Re: Allowing children to seek the Holy Ghost?
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Well, 1% of Wisconsins are pentecostal and about 52% are Catholic or Lutheran combined.
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And the rest is Chedder?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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07-19-2011, 02:05 PM
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Re: Allowing children to seek the Holy Ghost?
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really doesn't answer any questions per capita, per church does it?
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No, I couldn't find that. I highly doubt that pentecostals would have a high rate of alcoholism because they are against alcohol.
However, (and please don't think I am bashing) I have noticed that people with addictive personalities seem to like pentecostalism.
There is an emotional high that comes with the worship and the release of emotion that happens at the end. You just never know what is going to happen in a service and people get to the point where they crave that "move of the spirit" to the point that when they get it it is like a little high.
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07-19-2011, 02:24 PM
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Re: Allowing children to seek the Holy Ghost?
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No, I couldn't find that. I highly doubt that pentecostals would have a high rate of alcoholism because they are against alcohol.
However, (and please don't think I am bashing) I have noticed that people with addictive personalities seem to like pentecostalism.
There is an emotional high that comes with the worship and the release of emotion that happens at the end. You just never know what is going to happen in a service and people get to the point where they crave that "move of the spirit" to the point that when they get it it is like a little high.
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Part of the statistical problem might be that the Pentecostals may not claim someone if they only attend church twice a year while the mainstream churches might still consider them members... Also, most people view a true alcoholism as a lifelong disorder whether they are drinking alcohol or not, while Pentecostals might deny that status if they have creased consuming alcohol.
Pentecostals do appear to have very high rates of mental disorders. Of course, it does not mean Pentecostal churches create the disorders... it may mean the opposite, actually. Perhaps people with such disorders find the most help at Pentecostal Churches. Or perhaps Pentecostal evangelism is more aggressive into ALL people regardless of mental state.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-19-2011, 02:29 PM
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Re: Allowing children to seek the Holy Ghost?
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Part of the statistical problem might be that the Pentecostals may not claim someone if they only attend church twice a year while the mainstream churches might still consider them members...
Pentecostals do appear to have very high rates of mental disorders. Of course, it does not mean Pentecostal churches create the disorders... it may mean the opposite, actually. Perhaps people with such disorders find the most help at Pentecostal Churches. Or perhaps Pentecostal evangelism is more aggressive into ALL people regardless of mental state.
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Ok, you hit on something in this post that is absolutely true. In a baptist church you may have hundreds or even thousands of people who attend and say they go to that church but have absolutely no fruits of the spirit. They go because it is the cool place to be in town or because of tradition. I have noticed that people on this thread have mentioned how they drank and fornicated with their "catholic" or "lutheran" friends. I wonder if we are really getting the whole truth. I know a plenty of pentecostals who have been fornicating and do just as many sins as the heathen.
Just because a person attends a church doesn't make them a true christian.
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07-19-2011, 02:34 PM
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Re: Allowing children to seek the Holy Ghost?
Delta I am starting a thread - I should have done that earlier...
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-19-2011, 02:34 PM
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Re: Allowing children to seek the Holy Ghost?
If going to a church makes you a CHRISTIAN does going to a barn make you a cow?
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