Vatican calls for global authority on economy

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Rudy

If Cain gets his way a 9% sales tax will cripple the poor. I already pay a 7% sales tax now. I'm on a fixed income now.

The arguement is, that the goods being bought would be about 9% less in cost because 999 eliminates many other taxes.

[AreYouReady?]

Hoovie, while it sounds good in theory, the fact is that there are two states in the union, Alabama and Mississippi that have to pay full taxes on food. That 9-9-9- plan of Cain's would not help the poorest states in the union. Those states would have to pay 16% tax on food to put on the table.

[AreYouReady?]

BTW, does anybody really think that drumming up more taxes is going to help our country's desperate financial condition?

What about inflation? When I was growing up, bread was 25 cents a loaf and taxes were 4%, which meant we paid one cent on that loaf of bread.
Now we pay...say $2.78 for a loaf of bread at 7% tax = $2.97 for one loaf of bread.
Remember the more prices go up due to inflation, the more taxes you will have to pay for the item.

I don't know...but can somebody tell me if that 9-9-9 plan will keep inflation at bay?

[Nitehawk013]

You pay $2.78 for a loaf of bread? Where do you shop? Good grief, you can get a loaf for anywhere from$.89 to $1.00 at Aldi or Kroger/Walmart.

Every that is against 9-9-9 because it would "hurt" the poor seem to be willing to ignore that the current system already burdens the poor, but not only that...unfairly punishes anyone who actually works hard and meets success.

[houston]

The bread that I eat is 100 percent whole wheat . It does not sell for a dollar like that other stuff that passes for bread.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

I certainly understand your position in this regard.

I've been hearing about civilizations from 10,000 years ago. Sumerian?
This would blow dispensationalism right out of the waters if it could be proven without a shadow of a doubt that intelligent human beings, and not glorified primates walked and lived here on earth.

I looked up in the night sky last night and saw uncountable stars and wondered if God has another creation on one of those planets there?

However, as a rule, I try not to concern myself too much about what happened in 1,000,000 BC. I just want to love Jesus Christ (God), try to live an honest life in this corrupt world and this will be one of the many questions I can ask God when I get to see Him.

I hear ya, Bro. Our trust in Him smooths over a lot of the mysteries when we look out into space. Trust and faith in God are invaluable, in my humble opinion.

With regard to "civilizations 10,000 years ago" - that would depend upon what you mean by "civilization." And, I don't put any stock into those "History Channel" programs about Atlantis and "Ancient Astronauts." There's no evidence for anything there.

10,000 years ago human beings were domesticating animals, planting crops, irrigating fields and recording astronomical alignments and events with everything from cave wall paintings to monumental architecture like Stonehenge. The people were as intelligent as any today (or "as unintelligent?"). They just had a much lower level of technology and were still in the process of developing and trying to retain.

The "Sumerian" culture (actually a succession of cultures) started to irrigate on a large scale somewhere around 4500 BC. or about 6500 years ago. The "10,000 years ago" thing is often thrown around because that marks the beginning of the Holocene Epoch - our current climatological and geological epoch. The earth itself bears witness to the fact that some big changes happened around then, most noticeably, it was the end of the most recent glacial maximum (Ice Age). This meant that the earth warmed up a bit and became more rainy in some of the drier continental zones.

... boy, my mind is sure in a ramble today.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

The arguement is, that the goods being bought would be about 9% less in cost because 999 eliminates many other taxes.

Personally, I wouldn't give Congress power to tax BOTH income and consumption - even at the modest level Cain is proposing. They'll just jack it when the Dems come back into power, only this time they'll hit us twice as hard.

For me, it's "either or." Washington cannot be trusted with both.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

You pay $2.78 for a loaf of bread? Where do you shop? Good grief, you can get a loaf for anywhere from$.89 to $1.00 at Aldi or Kroger/Walmart.

I buy my bread at WalMart for $2.78 a loaf. I have to buy Nature's Own because it does not contain artificial preservatives or high fructose corn syrup. Sure I could buy that cheap bread, but I have to watch what type of food I put into my body. The cheap bread has dye, preservatives and high fructose corn syrup which aggravates insulin resistant diabetic condition as well as my husband's condition of diabetes.

It is eating the cheap stuff that put's people's health in jeopardy.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by pelathais

With regard to "civilizations 10,000 years ago" - that would depend upon what you mean by "civilization." And, I don't put any stock into those "History Channel" programs about Atlantis and "Ancient Astronauts." There's no evidence for anything there.

10,000 years ago human beings were domesticating animals, planting crops, irrigating fields and recording astronomical alignments and events with everything from cave wall paintings to monumental architecture like Stonehenge. The people were as intelligent as any today (or "as unintelligent?"). They just had a much lower level of technology and were still in the process of developing and trying to retain.

The "Sumerian" culture (actually a succession of cultures) started to irrigate on a large scale somewhere around 4500 BC. or about 6500 years ago. The "10,000 years ago" thing is often thrown around because that marks the beginning of the Holocene Epoch - our current climatological and geological epoch. The earth itself bears witness to the fact that some big changes happened around then, most noticeably, it was the end of the most recent glacial maximum (Ice Age). This meant that the earth warmed up a bit and became more rainy in some of the drier continental zones.

... boy, my mind is sure in a ramble today.

I don't buy the ancient's being primitive as portrayed by the History Channel either. In fact, the ancient people were way smarter than our civilization of people currently are....except for a select chosen few of elitists.

Some think that we will be going into another ice age soon...what say you?

[Jay]

I like two thirds of Cain's tax plan. I would like to see Perry revise his down some. I am already paying .2 percent of my income to various levels of government. His plan would only raise my taxes. If he were to cut the personal income tax, I would be a lot happier.