Question about "speaking in tongues"

[shag]

Originally Posted by The Matt

If you're having trouble accepting that tongues spoken by preachers is real, you need to pray about it, fast about it, and read the word. After a bit of that, I'm sure YOUR problem will be dealt with.

I've been doing exactly that for over a week now. And... I'm trying to find BIBLE(scripture and context) for (short vowel ending sylables) like "ya da da da ba ha sa ta" during church "service". Especially when ANYONE can do it. And find out exactly WHAT it is. It may take me a few weeks, or never.. lol

[KeptByTheWord]

Yes, I am curious who wrote this article.

[shag]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Yes, I am curious who wrote this article.

I havent got a clue, obviously not a oneness pentecostal. Just came across it and copied it, researching tongues on the internet.



A friend of mine just moved back from Germany recently. He and I used to pray together every Tuesday about 10 years ago. I noticed a certain phrase he used then in "tongues". I prayed with hin the other day, and after 10 years he still repeats that same phrase, over and over. Inetersting to me. Not sayin it invalidates the gift of tongues. Just interesting.

I remember praying with another friend that always uses the same phrase in a "tongue", for years now, over and over.

My wife's grandma.....same thing. Over and over.
( I realize someones gonna chime in and say "How do U know theyre not repeatedly saying "glory to God" the same way for the past decade....and to that I say maybe they are!)
But, it seems strange to me also, that one syllable vowel ending "things" can be translated as languages, when they do not even have a hint of similiarity of sylables ending in vowels in those languages.

All Im saying is all this stuff, and topping it off 95% of what I hear is one syllable "words"(?) ending in a vowel repeated, has drawn my interest.
(Its even in the video Aquilla posted. Bottom line, Im just thinkin that much of what is claimed as "tongues", may not be "tongues", or atleast the "tongues of the bible".
I did say much, NOT ALL.




and....I might even to add to that; in August last year, after "tongues" at church was given, this interpretation came forth below. Maybe it can still come to pass, its only been 5 months..Not trying to mock it by any means, just watching it to see..
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=36575

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Shag, why don't you ask your pastor?
He's the guy that is in authority there, he should give you an answer.

(If you run into a baptist on this forum he would tell you it's from the devil. That's what happened to me when I started to speak in tongues......of course I left that baptist church.)

I can relate. The girl I was dating in the baptist church left me for the Youth Pastor over tongues. In FACT, they were kind enough to mail me (I was stationed overseas at the time) a book called Authors of Confusion to help me understand my theology was wack.

Only problem for their side is that once you are baptized with the Holy Ghost, you never forget it, or renounce it.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by shag

I've been doing exactly that for over a week now. And... I'm trying to find BIBLE(scripture and context) for (short vowel ending sylables) like "ya da da da ba ha sa ta" during church "service". Especially when ANYONE can do it. And find out exactly WHAT it is. It may take me a few weeks, or never.. lol

I think I'm about where you are, and would appreciate any further insight you might have (how to flag a thread?). I would like to point out that what I hear, when I hear about "tongues," is "confusion," which tells me there is some truth here that satan wishes to obscure.

Ah, "subscribe."

[TyronePalmer]

Originally Posted by shag

I havent got a clue, obviously not a oneness pentecostal. Just came across it and copied it, researching tongues on the internet.

A friend of mine just moved back from Germany recently. He and I used to pray together every Tuesday about 10 years ago. I noticed a certain phrase he used then in "tongues". I prayed with hin the other day, and after 10 years he still repeats that same phrase, over and over. Inetersting to me. Not sayin it invalidates the gift of tongues. Just interesting.

I remember praying with another friend that always uses the same phrase in a "tongue", for years now, over and over.

My wife's grandma.....same thing. Over and over.
( I realize someones gonna chime in and say "How do U know theyre not repeatedly saying "glory to God" the same way for the past decade....and to that I say maybe they are!)
But, it seems strange to me also, that one syllable vowel ending "things" can be translated as languages, when they do not even have a hint of similiarity of sylables ending in vowels in those languages.

All Im saying is all this stuff, and topping it off 95% of what I hear is one syllable "words"(?) ending in a vowel repeated, has drawn my interest.
(Its even in the video Aquilla posted. Bottom line, Im just thinkin that much of what is claimed as "tongues", may not be "tongues", or atleast the "tongues of the bible".
I did say much, NOT ALL.

and....I might even to add to that; in August last year, after "tongues" at church was given, this interpretation came forth below. Maybe it can still come to pass, its only been 5 months..Not trying to mock it by any means, just watching it to see..
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=36575

The biggest problem I see is a lack of understanding between the language that we speak with 'our spirit' that cannot be understood and the spiritual gift of 'different kinds of languages' that is given by the Holy Spirit as He wills.

I know I was saying the same words over and over myself and this thread helped me to question what I was really doing, and I see that I myself was speaking in tongues by my flesh more often than not, and I repented of doing that and I can tell you I was delivered of something that wasn't of God!

[bbyrd009]

"The biggest problem I see is a lack of understanding between the language that we speak with 'our spirit' that cannot be understood and the spiritual gift of 'different kinds of languages' that is given by the Holy Spirit as He wills."

[shag]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

"The biggest problem I see is a lack of understanding between the language that we speak with 'our spirit' that cannot be understood and the spiritual gift of 'different kinds of languages' that is given by the Holy Spirit as He wills."

Uhhh, why the repeat? Meaning u agree?

[Hoovie]

The essence of the tongues are the same whether they are deemed to serve multiple purposes or not...

It makes no sense whatsoever to say a particular tongue must be interpreted lest the unlearned say we are mad... But the preacher (or others) may have complete liberty to yell in tongues at his discretion without interpretation, because that particular use of tongues was not meant to be interpreted...

Says who?? I don't think so.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by TyronePalmer

The biggest problem I see is a lack of understanding between the language that we speak with 'our spirit' that cannot be understood and the spiritual gift of 'different kinds of languages' that is given by the Holy Spirit as He wills...I was delivered of something that wasn't of God!

Yes, I agree; most or all of the discussions I find about tongues ignore this basic conundrum.