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Old 03-31-2012, 09:32 PM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday

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DM - I believe it will be a split decision. They will strike down the individual mandate, but leave the rest alone for Congress to try and clean up.
And don't ask me to post that BHO is a great leader.
I could not do that in all truthfulness...
Unless you believe that leading us into European style socialism is a great thing.
Although I fully believe that his preferred style of government is fascism.
As evidenced by this definition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Cant happen ,congress removed the severablity clause, if the mandate goes down it all goes down IF they follow the letter of the law.BTW they already have voted ,we just cant find out til june.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:35 PM
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After yesterday I think it's obvious that the conservatives on the bench rightly feel that its outside the bounds of their constitutional powers to, as you say, "rule with a surgical knife". Scalia asked the Solicitor General for a precedent for that and he could name none. What needs to be done in America about healthcare is to allow open borders for insurance companies. The level of competition would be raise and prices would lower. Health insurance would be a lot more affordable. Besides the real number if uninsured in USA is about 15 million not 50 million. Many of those 15 mil are young ppl who choose not to carry insurance because theynare young and healthy. Another segment of that 15 mil are wealthy folks who choose not to carry insurance and pay as they go.
True ,friend of mine owns a resturaunt and offers health care invariably they turn it down ,despite the fact its ridiculously cheap co pay.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:40 PM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday

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Ooops, Romney!!! , Obama's Lawyer tagged you into the Obamacare. LOL!

Told you! - Romneycare = Obamacare


Page 109: http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arg...98-Tuesday.pdf

Solicitor General, Donald B. Verrilli, Jr. - Think about how much it would cost to get the insurance when you are at the hospital or at the doctor. It would be -- it would be unfathomably high. That will never work. Congress understood that. It chose the means that will work, the means that it saw worked in the States and in the State of Massachusetts, and that -- and that it had every reason to think would work on a national basis.
Mass. will be illegal too i would think
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:48 PM
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I hope you don't really believe that the government to give all the same coverage if this thing fails at the SC. If you are 70 and older, good luck on getting the kind of coverage a younger person will receive.

It is not an equal opportunity agenda that BO has presented. Read the policy.

Also, it will cost MORE than what we have been paying, so the money issue you presented is wrong.

Do I agree with the way free insurance market has been handling insurance, NO. They need a watch dog that is NOT the insurance company as they pretty much have had in the past.
exactly have an aunt of mine in Canada, who waited nearly two years to get a simple surgery ,she is 71 , was bedridden,it nearly killed her ,but fortunately there is a lot of age in the family ,finally she got the surgery and she is now gaining weight and off the meds.fact is they go oh well, she is 71 put the younger ones at the top of the list.
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:03 PM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday

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Cant happen ,congress removed the severablity clause, if the mandate goes down it all goes down IF they follow the letter of the law.BTW they already have voted ,we just cant find out til june.
Technically, you are correct. In actuality, most of the Court analyst that I have read or listened to do not believe this will actually happen.
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Old 04-03-2012, 05:00 PM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday

After hearing Obama dare the "unelected" court to do something "unprecedented" by overturning his bill....and suggesting that the SCOTUS lacks authority or power to do so; I'm wondering how Obama was ever made a Constitutional Law Professor. Affirmative Action has to be the reason, because anytime Obama talks about the Constitution, he shows how ignorant of it he is. He certainly didn't get the position because of his knowledge on the subject.
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:01 PM
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Re: Obamacare goes to Supreme Court Monday

Same song, different artist. Still, it's worth listening to keep it fresh on the mind...

"Memo to the Supreme Court: Health Care Is Not a Right"
By Richard M. Salsman

http://www.forbes.com/sites/richards...s-not-a-right/
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