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04-06-2012, 12:55 PM
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Re: Lord's Supper & Foot Washing Service Observati
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04-06-2012, 12:56 PM
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Re: Lord's Supper & Foot Washing Service Observati
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Oh, good grief. Would you lighten up, please? Bro. Epley can hold his own in these types of discussions and I think I can speak for MOST people on this forum when I say: We respect him even when we don't agree with him. He's a great man and a great Christian.
It is OKAY for people to have a sense of humor or try to lighten the mood--even in serious conversations.
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04-06-2012, 12:57 PM
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Re: Lord's Supper & Foot Washing Service Observati
Honestly, I am sure Bro. Epley entered into the conversation because he believes that he can teach you something. He may or may not change your mind but he will give you plenty to think about, which is always good...well, for me at least.
And do lighten up... you'll actually have some fun here
Peace to you.
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04-06-2012, 03:43 PM
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Re: Lord's Supper & Foot Washing Service Observati
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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins
Because of that comment and attitude, I'll stop commenting in this discussion with Brother Epley. Not out of disrespect to him, but out of respect.
To post emoticons eating popcorn, and someone saying, this is going to be good is the wrong spirit to have in this weighty of a discussion, and I won't contribute to that juvenile, and dividing spirit that such comments contribute to. To further discuss it would be divisive, and in appropriate on my part.
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Bro. Robbins most folks on here have posted with me for years. I certainly do not mean to be uncivil nor ugly. I just do not believe anyone is saved that has not obeyed Acts 2:38 and does not believe in the absolute Oneness of God. That is the bottomline. Most on here do not agree but I am very predictable in these types of discussions. we have been fussing for years.
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04-09-2012, 03:22 PM
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Re: Lord's Supper & Foot Washing Service Observati
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04-10-2012, 09:33 AM
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Re: Lord's Supper & Foot Washing Service Observati
Bro. Epley was kind enough to explain his view to me through the PMs. I may not entirely agree, but Jesus has promised to lead us into all truth. However, when one rejects it, they are then going to be lost.
I am of the oppinion also that not all who call themselves Trinity are such. They believe that they are, but when pressed to explain, they show themselves to be truly Oneness.
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04-10-2012, 10:12 AM
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Re: Lord's Supper & Foot Washing Service Observati
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Bro. Robbins most folks on here have posted with me for years. I certainly do not mean to be uncivil nor ugly. I just do not believe anyone is saved that has not obeyed Acts 2:38 and does not believe in the absolute Oneness of God. That is the bottomline. Most on here do not agree but I am very predictable in these types of discussions. we have been fussing for years.
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Bro Epley, I knew you beleived that way, and I knew that I didn't... and that for us to go down that road of discussion would be of no avail for either one of us... especially, when it seemed others were in hopes of it getting heated, or confrontational. I didn't see how that in any way would be edifying for either one of us or the body in general, therefore it seemed best for us to just agree to disagree and go along our merry way. I'm certainly not going to change your mind, and your certainly not going to change mine... so really no use in beating that poor horse anymore since he's dead and stinks.
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04-10-2012, 11:59 AM
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Re: Lord's Supper & Foot Washing Service Observati
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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins
Robbins is the name.....
And no judging going on here.... just don't understand why someone would take of the cup and bread and not the humiliation and service portion of the service.... (SIDEBAR: the Bible doesn't condemn judging, but puts parameters on what is Biblical Judging and what isn't, but that's a sidebar and not part of this thread.)
The very reasons that so many say why they don't do it, is why I do. I am a very, very private man... love my own personal space... don't want to touch anyone else, and don't want them touching me. I've lived alone for 17 years because I like my space... I cherish it.
So I make myself take part in Foot Washing Service when I have the opportunity so that my flesh can take the good beating it deserves and I can be put in that place of service, humility and even humiliation that we should be in not only for the Kingdom but also toward one another.
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Brother, I know you don't like it when I bring this up, but I just can't help it......here's another indication of the fact that you are beating yourself up. And yet, you say you are happy........if you are, that's great. I just get the feeling that you are going to be like Sisyphus, you just keep pushing that rock uphill........this statement just makes me a bit sad.
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04-10-2012, 12:13 PM
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Re: Lord's Supper & Foot Washing Service Observati
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Brother, I know you don't like it when I bring this up, but I just can't help it......here's another indication of the fact that you are beating yourself up. And yet, you say you are happy........if you are, that's great. I just get the feeling that you are going to be like Sisyphus, you just keep pushing that rock uphill........this statement just makes me a bit sad.
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Then you misunderstand the quote... the statement "so that my flesh can take the good beating that it deserves..." is no different than Paul in Galatians 5:24, "And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." The Scripture continually teaches that the carnal man must be put in his place, and that we are to follow after the Spirit... that we must "die daily". That's the very thing that I was referencing here.
Brother, it's obvious we don't agree on Separation. I believe there is no good in your flesh. It is inherently evil. And it will try to overtake your redeemed soul, unless it is continually crucified and placed where it belongs. Do you not believe in fasting? What do you think the purpose of that is? It's to promote the vessel into being yielded to God and not it's own fleshly desires. Fasting is so that we may decrease and that He might increase. He isn't going to increase unless our flesh takes the good beating back that it deserves and it put into it's place.
Don't feel sad for me. Life isn't about pursuing indulgences, recreation, fun, and the enjoyment of the carnal pleasures of this world. Life is but a vapor, and for that short time, my purpose is to give Him Glory, to lift Him up, and to Praise Him.... to make it so that no one sees me, but sees only Him. I can't afford my flesh and it's agenda, wants, desires, cravings to get in the way and steal my testimony and witness.
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04-10-2012, 12:19 PM
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Re: Lord's Supper & Foot Washing Service Observati
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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins
Then you misunderstand the quote... the statement "so that my flesh can take the good beating that it deserves..." is no different than Paul in Galatians 5:24, "And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." The Scripture continually teaches that the carnal man must be put in his place, and that we are to follow after the Spirit... that we must "die daily". That's the very thing that I was referencing here.
Brother, it's obvious we don't agree on Separation. I believe there is no good in your flesh. It is inherently evil. And it will try to overtake your redeemed soul, unless it is continually crucified and placed where it belongs. Do you not believe in fasting? What do you think the purpose of that is? It's to promote the vessel into being yielded to God and not it's own fleshly desires. Fasting is so that we may decrease and that He might increase. He isn't going to increase unless our flesh takes the good beating back that it deserves and it put into it's place.
Don't feel sad for me. Life isn't about pursuing indulgences, recreation, fun, and the enjoyment of the carnal pleasures of this world. Life is but a vapor, and for that short time, my purpose is to give Him Glory, to lift Him up, and to Praise Him.... to make it so that no one sees me, but sees only Him. I can't afford my flesh and it's agenda, wants, desires, cravings to get in the way and steal my testimony and witness.
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No issue with anything you said above. My observation was with your wording, which incidentally, speaks volumes.
To say that one is crucifying the flesh and striving to please God is one thing.
To use the terminology "Giving it the beating it deserves" is what caught my eye.
I guess it's akin to disciplining a child in order to instruct them, and "Giving them the beating they deserve" when they don't behave.
Again, just my observation.
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