Repentance, Holiness, and the Church

[JamDat]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Yes, the Bible will tell you that we made scribes of Kenites;
we have a multiplicity of copies that highlights the errors,
so a bit more study is needed, but they have to pass
the exact same "test," and by your standards, I might add.
There are no secrets.

You probably don't deny the writings of Julius Ceaser, but you deny the writings of the most accurate book in antiquity. You should be a professor.

[JamDat]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

"God knows the heart."
Can you say that all Mormons are "lost?"
We can examine all the forms,
until we are blue in the face,
but God will judge by what is in one's heart,
I'm sure you agree.

Show me a mormon who is born again and I'll show you someone who's not mormon. Same with a muslim.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Dordt, this is just spew. You have no basis other than
Fox news, et al, from which to post this.

FOX NEWS?!!!

LOL.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

FOX NEWS?!!!

LOL.

Ya, we ALL know that MSNBC and Al Jazeera is where the REAL "truth" is for left wingers like BB.

[JamDat]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Yes, amen, I mostly agree. We have some minor semantics differences,
that I seriously doubt will mean squat to the surprised sheep
at "the Separation."

I happen to believe "be perfect" is achievable, and that christ is my High Priest, whom I am "joint heirs" with, and I pray to God, the One Christ told me to pray to. Let's forget the tripe thing, as you did not quote Christ there anyway, ok?

Can you tell me a human who has been perfect besides Jesus Christ?

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by acerrak

1)if the oppertunity allows me, i will ask what is the name of the muslim god?
2)i will also state that muslims are against christians

2:120: “Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you till you follow their religion. Say: "Verily, Islâmic Guidance is the only Guidance. And if you were to follow their desires after what you have received of Knowledge, then you would have against Allâh neither any protector nor helper.”

5:51: “O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as friends, they are but friends to one another. And if any amongst you takes them as friends, then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allâh guides not those people who are the wrong..doers.”

3)to be honest the Quran writers plagerized the bible and the torah around 600 A.d.

1) Forums are surely opportunities. God has many names, and my understanding is that Muslims refer to Allah, since one cannot add anything to Allah, like we do with God: "God forsaken," et al--there are better examples, but it's early, I can't think of them.

2) How do you know? You make a blanket statement based on these verses meant to convey another meaning, while verifying the veracity of
“Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you till you follow their religion..."
which, when you are honest, you must admit is true. This does not say "be against Christians and Jews;" this is only what you have read in it. In my experience, it is C's and J's who are against them, and one only needs eyes to see them oppressed in their own countries, while the Qur'an would include a C or J with a good heart as a believer. But if you mean the "Muslims" on Fox news, then ok.

3) Yes, well, God forbid that someone re-interpret Torah? Is this what you are trying to say? You will go down in flames with this, in like one post, so I prefer you to verify or restate this before I answer. It should be understood the context, in 600 ad, in which the Qur'an was written.
To be honest, you have like 50 translations of Torah, and you couldn't get two other randomly picked Christians to agree with your "Version." They have One.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by JamDat

You probably don't deny the writings of Julius Ceaser, but you deny the writings of the most accurate book in antiquity. You should be a professor.

Ah, I've never read Caesar, and I meant to provide verification that, in my understanding (and according to Scripture), even though Kenites were taken as scribes, they could not prevent the Word from manifesting. Where did I deny Scripture?

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

1) Forums are surely opportunities. God has many names, and my understanding is that Muslims refer to Allah, since one cannot add anything to Allah, like we do with God: "God forsaken," et al--there are better examples, but it's early, I can't think of them.

2) How do you know? You make a blanket statement based on these verses meant to convey another meaning, while verifying the veracity of
“Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you till you follow their religion..."
which, when you are honest, you must admit is true. This does not say "be against Christians and Jews;" this is only what you have read in it. In my experience, it is C's and J's who are against them, and one only needs eyes to see them oppressed in their own countries, while the Qur'an would include a C or J with a good heart as a believer. But if you mean the "Muslims" on Fox news, then ok.

3) Yes, well, God forbid that someone re-interpret Torah? Is this what you are trying to say? You will go down in flames with this, in like one post, so I prefer you to verify or restate this before I answer. It should be understood the context, in 600 ad, in which the Qur'an was written.

the muslim god has no name, allah is just a general name in arabic for the word god. arabic christians use the word allah for god, but they do not use it as a name.

the true God is YHWH and not allah which is a moon god with three daughters. so the muslims do not know the name of their god as us Christians do. all they know is its just god.

yep history concludes that the authors of the quaran plagerized the bible and took some from it then added to it. I seriously doubt i will go down in flame for some plagerized non sense. the book is just as inspired as the book of mormons who plagerized parts of the bible then added a new concept into it. History supports it.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by JamDat

Show me a mormon who is born again and I'll show you someone who's not mormon. Same with a muslim.

Yes, yes. The Mormons, the Muslims, the Hare Krishnas, Catholics, all have a similiar claim. It becomes meaningless words. Either one changes their mind, or they do not. I just checked, and God did not send me to judge Mormons. Most of the ones I've met seem to be producing good fruit. I'm looking for a Christian that has changed their mind. Maybe there are only 4?

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Ya, we ALL know that MSNBC and Al Jazeera is where the REAL "truth" is for left wingers like BB.

Ha, touche'. Actually, I would say that truth must be sifted from any source.