Were tithes ever required by Jesus or the Apostles?

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Here is the issue. FEAR. DOUBT. UNBELIEF. People who legislate tithes are AFRAID they will not get the offerings they need. What is that? Unbelief and fear.

Those who give and know God blesses givers, wil give, and the church lights will continue to burn!

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Here is the issue. FEAR. DOUBT. UNBELIEF. People who legislate tithes are AFRAID they will not get the offerings they need. What is that? Unbelief and fear.

Those who give and know God blesses givers, wil give, and the church lights will continue to burn!

I have one problem with that Elder. My parents did home mission work, and they trusted God without fear in that work. Those churches never made it because people refused to give or they were just power hungry to control my dad to suit there lifestyle. My parents gave from their own sweat and toil to make the church work, but they couldn't keep up. There were spiritual freeloaders who did not give, and when the churches folded, all they could say was "well, must not have been Gods will". If you ask me, I think thats a bunch of boloney!

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I have one problem with that Elder. My parents did home mission work, and they trusted God without fear in that work. Those churches never made it because people refused to give or they were just power hungry to control my dad to suit there lifestyle. My parents gave from their own sweat and toil to make the church work, but they couldn't keep up. There were spiritual freeloaders who did not give, and when the churches folded, all they could say was "well, must not have been Gods will". If you ask me, I think thats a bunch of boloney!

How does this change what the scriptures clearly teach.

Typical pennycostal trick....can't prove it with scripture tell a personal story or two and that proves it.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

How does this change what the scriptures clearly teach.

Typical pennycostal trick....can't prove it with scripture tell a personal story or two and that proves it.

I was responding to someone who said that it was about faith. Hey, if you don't want to give, then don't. I could care less if you ever get a blessing!!!!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I was responding to someone who said that it was about faith. Hey, if you don't want to give, then don't. I could care less if you ever get a blessing!!!!

More guilt imposing antics by Easty ... It's okay bro ... you believe in the extrabiblical ... all of us do ... in one way or another.

[freeatlast]

[QUOTE=BrotherEastman;160328]I was responding to someone who said that it was about faith. Hey, if you don't want to give, then don't. I could care less if you ever get a blessing!!!![/QUOTE]

No need to get nasty there my brother.

I've been audited by the IRS on three differnet years for being over 50% of my income on charitable giving. And God has blessed tremendously in my life. BUT 10% tithing is NOT a NT requiremnt.

Giving is encouraged by the NT writers, as each one determines in his own heart and that itr be not of compulsion.

If we teach eronously that tithing is required tio be saved and we get people to give their 10% whaty have we acomplished. We have robbed thenm of the blessing that comes from giving as God directs your heart to give.

you teach a right doctrine, that salvation is by the grace of God and people will fall in love with God and the funds to supply the needs of the assembly will come in.

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by COOPER

Were tithes ever required by Jesus or the Apostles?

A Jew would never not pay his tithes it was the law.They did stuff to people back then for not obeying the law.

[marthaolivia]

Why not tithe and cheerfully give the same amount in offerings? If God blesses a person with a job or wealth, he/she should want to give in return what is already God's. I love being able to help support my church and pastor .

[Rico]

Originally Posted by marthaolivia

Why not tithe and cheerfully give the same amount in offerings? If God blesses a person with a job or wealth, he/she should want to give in return what is already God's. I love being able to help support my church and pastor .

20% may be a burden for some people, especially the working poor. Those times when I have observed tithing as a practice I tried using 15% as my guideline. There was a time, however, when the Lord spoke to me to give 20% in faith and when I did, lookout! My income went up dramatically! I have often wondered if God would bless me the way He did back then if I were to go back to tithing 20% again. Those were some good times!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Rico

20% may be a burden for some people, especially the working poor. Those times when I have observed tithing as a practice I tried using 15% as my guideline. There was a time, however, when the Lord spoke to me to give 20% in faith and when I did, lookout! My income went up dramatically! I have often wondered if God would bless me the way He did back then if I were to go back to tithing 20% again. Those were some good times!

Making something a guideline is where we blow it, I think. Giving in faith is not giving by guidelines. It's easier for flesh to use guidelines, but faith works differently. hence, you were blessed when you gave, but things changed in guidelines.