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02-26-2007, 01:23 PM
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Would like to see what some of you theologians think water baptism represents. ALL you other folks can answer as well. 
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Water baptizim is taking on the blood of Jesus, which covers your sins and gives you his name over your life.
You can't be a Christian without the name of Christ over your life.
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03-20-2007, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Would like to see what some of you theologians think water baptism represents. ALL you other folks can answer as well.
I have always understood water baptism in the simplest terms I could find. It is a burial. Jesus after dying, was buried. We, after dying at repentance, bury the old sinful man. We are buried with Christ by faith, and are to resurrect with him to new life (Holy Ghost baptism).
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Hi St,
Water baptism in Jesus name remits sins or washes your sins away. Acts 22:16:And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,and wash away thy sins,calling on the name of the Lord
Have you obeyed ? Acts2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ FOR THE REMISSION of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call
Jesus told the disciples in John 20:23 whosoever sins you remit they are remitted and whosoever sins you retain they are retained. When we lead someone to the water to be baptized their sins are being remitted in the water. John20:23: Whosoever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whosoever sins ye retain, they are retained
NOTE confess. Where do we confess our sins? The blood is applied in the water in the name of Jesus. 1 John 1:9: If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Math.3:6: And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins
Believers will be baptized in Jesus name.Acts 8:12: But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women
Acts10:43: To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. (Remisssion in Jesus name baptism Acts 2:38)
Blood was shed at death.Rom.6:: Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death (blood): that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5: For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death (blood), we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection
True believers will obey.1 Peter1:22: Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23: Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever
Acts 5:32: And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him
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03-25-2007, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Would like to see what some of you theologians think water baptism represents. ALL you other folks can answer as well.
I have always understood water baptism in the simplest terms I could find. It is a burial. Jesus after dying, was buried. We, after dying at repentance, bury the old sinful man. We are buried with Christ by faith, and are to resurrect with him to new life (Holy Ghost baptism).
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Jesus before death was baptised by John? Baptisim was not a new thing, baptisim in Jesus Name was to set believers in Christ apart.
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03-25-2007, 07:13 PM
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I'm sure this has been mentioned before, though I had forgotten it earlier; Romans 6.
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12-31-2007, 10:05 PM
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Reviving this thread to ask again...
JUST WHAT IS BAPTISM FOR???
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12-31-2007, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Reviving this thread to ask again...
JUST WHAT IS BAPTISM FOR???
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Are you asking about water baptism?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
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01-01-2008, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Reviving this thread to ask again...
JUST WHAT IS BAPTISM FOR???
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Like we need to discuss this once again.
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12-31-2007, 11:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
Would like to see what some of you theologians think water baptism represents. ALL you other folks can answer as well.
I have always understood water baptism in the simplest terms I could find. It is a burial. Jesus after dying, was buried. We, after dying at repentance, bury the old sinful man. We are buried with Christ by faith, and are to resurrect with him to new life (Holy Ghost baptism).
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Water baptism is a part of being righteous,it washes your sins away.All of God's word saves us.
Math.3:[13] Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.[14] But John forbad him, saying,I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?[15] And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to FULFIL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS.Then he suffered him
Water baptism in Jesus name remits sins or washes your sins away. Acts 22:16:And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,and wash away thy sins,calling on the name of the Lord
1 Tim.004:016Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; (teachings,word,Truth) continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
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01-01-2008, 08:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
Would like to see what some of you theologians think water baptism represents. ALL you other folks can answer as well.
I have always understood water baptism in the simplest terms I could find. It is a burial. Jesus after dying, was buried. We, after dying at repentance, bury the old sinful man. We are buried with Christ by faith, and are to resurrect with him to new life (Holy Ghost baptism).
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It represents the passing of the old world that was under a curse as Noah did in the Ark, into a new world into a new life. It is the commencement of a new life in a new world after having passed through the waters of destruction while leaving the old cursed world behind. Peter alludes to this sort of circumcision...the cutting away of the old, to resurrect into the new.
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01-01-2008, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Apprehended
It represents the passing of the old world that was under a curse as Noah did in the Ark, into a new world into a new life. It is the commencement of a new life in a new world after having passed through the waters of destruction while leaving the old cursed world behind. Peter alludes to this sort of circumcision...the cutting away of the old, to resurrect into the new.
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Thus one is still abiding in their old life until they have been water baptized in Jesus Name.
This is my understanding, and the reason I cannot accept one as "saved" prior to water baptism. The Old Man MUST be put down. The heart MUST be circumcised. There MUST be the cutting away of the OLD before there can be a resurrection into the new.
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