Is Acts 2:38 your god?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by COOPER

Very interesting what Jeff Arnold said.
To apply such strong holds on standards and manuals will cause the man of God to tune out the voice of God.:
Traditions and those that govern such and the "don't touch my rules" attitudes, will cause the man of God to loose sight of God.
Man has built the gaurd rails so far away from the edge of the cliff, that it is hard to find the path. The narrow path has become a razors edge.

Which is probably why a lot of the Pharisees did not accept Jesus..."

Joh 5:37 And He sending Me, the Father Himself, has borne witness of Me. Neither have you heard His voice at any time nor seen His shape.

Joh 5:38 And you do not have His Word abiding in you, for you do not believe Him whom He has sent.

Joh 5:39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life. And they are the ones witnessing of Me,

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

HERE we are contending there we are converting I hope same message different approach. I do not dislike or hate anyone on this forum. I hate what they say sometimes but never them. Postions not persons are in the sword fight. Although I confess sometimes it is hard to distinquish the two.

Amen my good brother.

[MrsMcD]

Originally Posted by COOPER

I am guilty...............

We are all guilty. :-(

[ManOfWord]

Some might remember that one of the threads I started on NFCF was entitled, "Has Ac. 2:38 been exalted higher than Jesus Christ"


My thread was not started to cast stones but to start discussion and cause folks to think. It was a good thread and went on for quite a while. It also had some very good discussions as well.

It is my opinion that in some circles, Ac. 2:38 has been exalted above Jesus Christ, due to the fact that, again, in some circles the "formula" for salvation is more important than the "person" of salvation. I'm not painting with a broad brush, but when the ONLY or MAIN indentifier of a child of God is three "check boxes" if you will, then I think the accusation sticks.

Mind you now, I am not talking about all in apostolic circles or all apostolic churches. But the same thing happened in Jesus' day. When the "person" of salvation came, they were quite content to dwell in their doctrine, thinking that it was sufficient of itself to save them.

Doctrinal obedience is NEVER sufficient. It is important, indeed, but sufficient in and of itself......NEVER!!!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by COOPER

I am guilty...............

Likewise.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Some might remember that one of the threads I started on NFCF was entitled, "Has Ac. 2:38 been exalted higher than Jesus Christ"


My thread was not started to cast stones but to start discussion and cause folks to think. It was a good thread and went on for quite a while. It also had some very good discussions as well.

It is my opinion that in some circles, Ac. 2:38 has been exalted above Jesus Christ, due to the fact that, again, in some circles the "formula" for salvation is more important than the "person" of salvation. I'm not painting with a broad brush, but when the ONLY or MAIN indentifier of a child of God is three "check boxes" if you will, then I think the accusation sticks.

Mind you now, I am not talking about all in apostolic circles or all apostolic churches. But the same thing happened in Jesus' day. When the "person" of salvation came, there were quite content to dwell in their doctrine, thinking that it was sufficient of itself to save them.

Doctrinal obedience is NEVER sufficient. It is important, indeed, but sufficient in and of itself......NEVER!!!

Yeah and what bothers me is that people are reading what this man posted and reading something entirely different from what I read....they read "Acts 2:38 baaaaaaad, those that preach it are baaaaaaad" and that is not what I read in Dan's post anymore than they would have read it in yours.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Yeah and what bothers me is that people are reading what this man posted and reading something entirely different from what I read....they read "Acts 2:38 baaaaaaad, those that preach it are baaaaaaad" and that is not what I read in Dan's post anymore than they would have read it in yours.

Appreciate it, Praxeas.

[MrsMcD]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Some might remember that one of the threads I started on NFCF was entitled, "Has Ac. 2:38 been exalted higher than Jesus Christ"


My thread was not started to cast stones but to start discussion and cause folks to think. It was a good thread and went on for quite a while. It also had some very good discussions as well.

It is my opinion that in some circles, Ac. 2:38 has been exalted above Jesus Christ, due to the fact that, again, in some circles the "formula" for salvation is more important than the "person" of salvation. I'm not painting with a broad brush, but when the ONLY or MAIN indentifier of a child of God is three "check boxes" if you will, then I think the accusation sticks.

Mind you now, I am not talking about all in apostolic circles or all apostolic churches. But the same thing happened in Jesus' day. When the "person" of salvation came, there were quite content to dwell in their doctrine, thinking that it was sufficient of itself to save them.

Doctrinal obedience is NEVER sufficient. It is important, indeed, but sufficient in and of itself......NEVER!!!

I remember the thread and I agree.

[Michael The Disciple]

I believe in Acts 2:38 and love it. But I have certainly noticed for many years that many seem to think its the only thing that is essential. Look at the doctrinal discussions on Oneness forums. No matter what the topic it USUALLY ends up saying as long as we believe in Acts 2:38 we are all Apostolic.

There is nothing at all wrong with doctrine. True doctrine that is. It will lead you the right way even to Jesus Christ himself.

But for doctrine (word of God) to do its work it must be OBEYED. Doctrine that is KNOWN and not obeyed will make us educated sinners. We need the WHOLE COUNSEL of God. We then need to teach the WHOLE COUNSEL of God to all who will listen.

Acts 2:38 will get us into Christ but it takes the WHOLE COUNSEL of God to get us into the Heavenly Kingdom.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Some might remember that one of the threads I started on NFCF was entitled, "Has Ac. 2:38 been exalted higher than Jesus Christ"


My thread was not started to cast stones but to start discussion and cause folks to think. It was a good thread and went on for quite a while. It also had some very good discussions as well.

It is my opinion that in some circles, Ac. 2:38 has been exalted above Jesus Christ, due to the fact that, again, in some circles the "formula" for salvation is more important than the "person" of salvation. I'm not painting with a broad brush, but when the ONLY or MAIN indentifier of a child of God is three "check boxes" if you will, then I think the accusation sticks.

Mind you now, I am not talking about all in apostolic circles or all apostolic churches. But the same thing happened in Jesus' day. When the "person" of salvation came, there were quite content to dwell in their doctrine, thinking that it was sufficient of itself to save them.

Doctrinal obedience is NEVER sufficient. It is important, indeed, but sufficient in and of itself......NEVER!!!

I understand what you are saying but in the name of this thread it appears hostile towar what is written. If you despise the writing you despise the Author who wrote them. In balanced churches which I have been blessed to be around my entire life Acts 2:38 is not like a toy or hobby horse where someone pulls it out and everyone jumps. But the the word of God is preached the person and plan of God is exalted and saints are blessed and edified. However Acts 2:38 is preached to the lost as God's ONLY message that saves and we are not offended. But it seems Acts 2:38 is offensive to some here. I hope NONE of the blood bought-Spirit inspired-Word is offensive to me.