The Affirmation Statement Comes Full Circle

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Sure it does.

If a man signs that he believes and will teach the AOF, how can he preach against ads or ministry on tv?

It's the exact same principle.

He does not have to. He can simply preach against tv itself, as the AOF still state that the org wholeheartedly disapproves of their people having tv's.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

We removed the prohibition completely.

Daniel Alicea needs to post it again.

[stmatthew]

Here is the Affirmation Statement.

Ministers Affirmation

I (Minister's name), do hereby declare that I believe and embrace the Fundamental Doctrine as stated in the Articles of Faith as set forth in the Manual of the United Pentecostal Church International. I also believe and embrace the holiness standards of the United Pentecostal Church International as set forth in said Articles of Faith, and I pledge to practice, preach and teach the same.


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Signature

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[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Here is Daniel's post in the Resolutions Thread-

Seems you CANNOT have a TV and ADVERTISE also.

Unless the #4 of this year was vastly different.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

This is how Resolution 4 ... for TV ... read last year as Res. 6 ... I don't believe there were any changes. It has passed

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

No Matt, you have said that tv was part of the AOF in the past. You have said theat men who had a tv lacked integrity. I agree.

You said that because they lived contrary to what they signed on to preach and practice. Now the UPC has changed. We embrace tv ads and ministry. By signing the AS men will be saying they agree with it.

Maybe your thoughts are correct here. I will have to think on it some. Ethically, this would be why many will be letting their license lapse, or turning in their cards. The passing of this resolution has succeeeded in dividing the fellowship. That may be a good thing in the long run.

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Did the resolution specifically say this, or is this the "loophole version"?

Matt have requested several times on different threads apparently its impossible to get a copy of the actual resolution.

[stmatthew]

I have looked elsewhere, but have not found it. Daniel posted Revolution #6 elsewhere, and Boom quoted it above. Since there were no amendments, it should be the same.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by James Griffin

Matt have requested several times on different threads apparently its impossible to get a copy of the actual resolution.

See post #54, or use the search function to search for "Resolution" within the thread where they reported play by play from the GC floor.

If you click on the arrow after the username in a quote, it takes you back to the quoted post. In this case, in another thread where Daniel posted the above.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

This organization now has an official stance that embraces television ads and ministry IN IT'S By-LAWS!!!!!

If you disagree with that stance, yet sign the AS, are you lying?

I don't know about "embraces." It simply no longer forbids. There are a lot of things not expessly forbidden in the AoF and/or Manual that preachers have preached against for years. Seamless stockings on women... the list is endless.

So the anti-TV crowd can still preach agin' it, but they can't drive someone with a TV ministry or TV ads out of the fellowship. That's the only real downer for them. They love to drive people out of the fellowship. They now have one less toy to play with.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I have never seen such concentration and discussion on man-made organizations and rules in a forum ever. There is more CONCERN and talk over such things than scriptures lately. ...

Well, obviously man-made organization and man-made rules are more important than Scripture. If not, why do we have the Manual, the AS, the standards, etc?