Pastor Steve Fender talks about TV Resolution at Kenneth Phillips Church - Page 6

Hoovie · #1 10-09-2007, 07:26 PM

Any other public references made concerning res 4?

I wonder if secular or Christian media will run staories about it? I am glad there was no big "walk-out" from the floor - that would likely have generated bad press.

TRIPLE E · #2 10-10-2007, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Any other public references made concerning res 4?

I wonder if secular or Christian media will run staories about it? I am glad there was no big "walk-out" from the floor - that would likely have generated bad press.

We will probably see a write up about it in the next Charisma Magazine!

CC1 · #3 10-09-2007, 09:27 PM

PentecostalAlive,

I understand from your perspective that is how you see things. However it is a shame your judgement is clouded in my opinon.

KP was my pastor for over 16 years and I can tell you that there is no bigger proponent of Acts 2:38 3 step salvation in the world.

What you guys don't like is that he did not uphold your cookie cutter extra biblical legalism nor the uncut hair doctrine for women, etc.

KP is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination and he would be the first one to tell you that. However he has worked tirelessly to spread the Acts 2 message. Today is his 68th birthday I believe and I will tell you that in my 48 years of being around Oneness Pentecost I do not know a single person who has devoted any more of their time and energy to the Acts 2 message.

Barb · #4 10-10-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

PentecostalAlive,

I understand from your perspective that is how you see things. However it is a shame your judgement is clouded in my opinon.

KP was my pastor for over 16 years and I can tell you that there is no bigger proponent of Acts 2:38 3 step salvation in the world.

What you guys don't like is that he did not uphold your cookie cutter extra biblical legalism nor the uncut hair doctrine for women, etc.

KP is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination and he would be the first one to tell you that. However he has worked tirelessly to spread the Acts 2 message. Today is his 68th birthday I believe and I will tell you that in my 48 years of being around Oneness Pentecost I do not know a single person who has devoted any more of their time and energy to the Acts 2 message.

CC1, I used to watch KP's program back in the day, and though I wasn't saved, I thought it was great.

I remember one particular broadcast where he had a young woman testify...I can't remember her name, but she was the niece of Katharine Hepburn. She was a beautiful girl...blond hair I think...it's been a while ago now.

Anyway, she said that she witnessed to her Aunt Katharine and was told to NOT bring that subject up again.

Were you going there then and do you know anything about this?!

CC1 · #5 10-10-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Barb

CC1, I used to watch KP's program back in the day, and though I wasn't saved, I thought it was great.

I remember one particular broadcast where he had a young woman testify...I can't remember her name, but she was the niece of Katharine Hepburn. She was a beautiful girl...blond hair I think...it's been a while ago now.

Anyway, she said that she witnessed to her Aunt Katharine and was told to NOT bring that subject up again.

Were you going there then and do you know anything about this?!

Interesting. That sounds like it would have been before my time. I moved there in March 1983.

Barb · #6 10-10-2007, 05:15 PM

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Interesting. That sounds like it would have been before my time. I moved there in March 1983.

Ahhh...well I'm trying to remember. It was some time in the early 70s if you know nothing about it.

CC1 · #7 10-10-2007, 05:17 PM

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Ahhh...well I'm trying to remember. It was some time in the early 70s if you know nothing about it.

So it is true that you are as old as dirt!!!!!!

TRIPLE E · #8 10-10-2007, 08:23 AM

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I just found something interesting. Pastor Steve Fender (http://www.livingwaychurchsa.org/) preached at Promiseland Church and mentioned how that Anthony Mangun (he calls him a good friend) had swayed the conference floor in Tampa, FL.

There are couple interesting things.

1) He states that 30 years ago that God placed a vision for using TV in his and KP's heart, and it is the same vision that AM has. He attributes the results to Kenneth Phillips reverbrating influence.

2) He was present on the floor of GC. (I hope he didn't vote)

You can see this for yourself at:
mms://66.232.148.34/Oct1st-7743V.wmv (or http://www.promiselandchurch.net/content/view/112/167/)

If you start watching at 1 hr and 12 minutes in, you will see it.

The charismatics are rejoicing because we are coming their way. It is sad, especially when you look at these men and their churches, and realize that same mistakes they made, UPCI is also repeating.

Only listened to it for a few minutes,I thought our message was Jesus-Christ and Him crucified,but it sounds like he's preaching KP!

CC1 · #9 10-10-2007, 09:29 AM

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Only listened to it for a few minutes,I thought our message was Jesus-Christ and Him crucified,but it sounds like he's preaching KP!

I have not listened to the service but I was at Promiseland not long ago when this service was announced and it was to incorporate KP's birthday celebration so I am sure that is why you heard a lot about KP.

The church used to throw KP big "surprise" birthday parties and to pre-empt that I think he just started incorporating a little nod to his birthday in whatever service was the closest to it.

In this case when I was there a couple of weeks ago he said that Steve Fender was going to be one of the guys preaching his funeral and this service was an opportunity for him to practice!

I would hope that on any Pastor's birthday his congregation or peers would let him know how much they appreciate him and what he has done. I am sure that is what was going on here.

KP is not flashy nor does he seek attention, adoration, etc.

3E, I would suggest you watch / listen to other services from Promiseland and I think you would quickly retract your criticism.

TRIPLE E · #10 10-10-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

I have not listened to the service but I was at Promiseland not long ago when this service was announced and it was to incorporate KP's birthday celebration so I am sure that is why you heard a lot about KP.

The church used to throw KP big "surprise" birthday parties and to pre-empt that I think he just started incorporating a little nod to his birthday in whatever service was the closest to it.

In this case when I was there a couple of weeks ago he said that Steve Fender was going to be one of the guys preaching his funeral and this service was an opportunity for him to practice!

I would hope that on any Pastor's birthday his congregation or peers would let him know how much they appreciate him and what he has done. I am sure that is what was going on here.

KP is not flashy nor does he seek attention, adoration, etc.

3E, I would suggest you watch / listen to other services from Promiseland and I think you would quickly retract your criticism.

I am not criticizing KP I was not enthused by all the rhetoric coming from SF though.