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Old 03-13-2009, 10:53 AM
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Purity and modesty inside and outside.
I could agree with this. However, too much time is wasted on people using Holiness as a dress code.

Holiness is not a dress issue ... it's a heart issue.

I know a couple ministers and their wives who are the epitome of UPC dress standards, but inside are wicked and filled with all kinds of bitterness and sin. They ~look~ like an example of what many describe Holiness to be ... but they're far from true Holiness.
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:57 AM
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Oh, where is PO?

This thread could top the hairspray thread!
I soooo want to say something, but I, unfortunately, don't have the time.
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:57 AM
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The leader of our prayer ministry is a man who has a good growth of beard and hair just above his shoulders. His wife wears jewelry and pants. Most "holiness" preaching types would say they're not saved and need to change their appearance ... that's how I was raised. However, these two are incredible people and when they start praying, wow! A lot of my thinking had to change after meeting and getting to know them.
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:58 AM
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I could agree with this. However, too much time is wasted on people using Holiness as a dress code.

Holiness is not a dress issue ... it's a heart issue.

I know a couple ministers and their wives who are the epitome of UPC dress standards, but inside are wicked and filled with all kinds of bitterness and sin. They ~look~ like an example of what many describe Holiness to be ... but they're far from true Holiness.
Standards have given us a false sense of security or acceptance. Clothes is the easy part, now love your enemy is a whole different ball game.
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:00 AM
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Re: Cosmetics???

Pride is the real sin issue.... and you can be prideful with no makeup on your face. You can even be prideful about the fact that you have no makeup on your face.
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:02 AM
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LOL! I don't think you know what gossiping means.
I will ask the expert if i want to know all about it.

I would actuall say I am familiar with what gossip means in the bible, In the field of journalism and the vocabulary that covers it in the legal profession.

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The Hebrew word translated “gossip” in the Old Testament is defined as one who reveals secrets going about as a talebearer or scandal-monger. This is one who has gotten out of people secrets about themselves and their families, and then goes about telling his tales from house to house, to the great detriment of those whose secrets he is entrusted with, as well as to those to whom he tells them, as well as to his own. Gossip is distinguished from sharing information by its intent. The gossip-monger has as his goal building himself up by making others look bad and by exalting his superior knowledge of others.
Nosey folks wanting private info so they can add to it and pass it along.

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12 Thus they bring judgment on themselves, because they have broken their first pledge. 13 Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying things they ought not to.

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Empirical gossip research has not coalesced into a mainstream approach. Most researchers are in accord that the term can apply to both positive and negative aspects of personal affairs and that, depending on the point of view, it can have positive or negative social effects. An early factionalism was reflected by the opposing views of Gluckman (1963), who maintained that gossip served the interests of the group, and Paine (1967), who countered that gossip was a tool wielded by individuals for personal advantage. Wilson, Wilczynski, Wells, and Weiser (2000), using evaluations of gossipy vignettes, showed that gossip that upheld group norms tended to reflect better on the gossipers (and more harshly on the targets) than self-serving gossip did. Studies have also focused on individual differences in gossip use, perception, and vulnerability (e.g., Davis & Rulon, 1935; Jaeger, Skleder, & Rosnow, 1998; Litman & Pezzo, 2005; Nevo, Nevo, & Derech Zehavi, 1993; Radlow & Berger, 1959).

. so if I study social networking analysis and see it's motives are to some extent detrimental to the target of the gossip, I can outline a plan for disintermediation or is simple words, preachers preach against it.

On blogs such as this one, informal gate keepers arise and there is a lot of activity. I earlier noted one gossip participant openly processing and adding to information to be conveyed to others.

I don't think people that gossip have the intuitive and introspective power to understand it's meaning.
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:04 AM
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Re: Cosmetics???

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Pride is the real sin issue.... and you can be prideful with no makeup on your face. You can even be prideful about the fact that you have no makeup on your face.
Once again let me quote a billboard that a local morning radio show was running. I thought it said a mouthful (crudeness aside). The slogan was "Modest and (mild expletive) proud of it".
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:06 AM
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Re: Cosmetics???

The Hebrew word translated “gossip” in the Old Testament is defined as one who reveals secrets going about as a talebearer or scandal-monger.

Your quote - - is correct - - reveals SECRETS!

Quoting what you have already stated is not a secret. Asking questions about what you have already posted is not secret.

I think you have some issues you need to work on. That's an opinion - not gossip. I said it to YOU - - didn't whisper it to someone else.

Apparently, you have been damaged in your life by some gossip and are very bitter about it.
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:16 AM
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Once again let me quote a billboard that a local morning radio show was running. I thought it said a mouthful (crudeness aside). The slogan was "Modest and (mild expletive) proud of it".
LOL
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Old 03-13-2009, 12:17 PM
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The Hebrew word translated “gossip” in the Old Testament is defined as one who reveals secrets going about as a talebearer or scandal-monger.

Your quote - - is correct - - reveals SECRETS!

Quoting what you have already stated is not a secret. Asking questions about what you have already posted is not secret.

I think you have some issues you need to work on. That's an opinion - not gossip. I said it to YOU - - didn't whisper it to someone else.

Apparently, you have been damaged in your life by some gossip and are very bitter about it.
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You engage in gossip.

20 some thousand posts. Lot of discussion of others in there. A lot of snarky drive by posting.
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