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07-28-2017, 12:14 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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You probably don't realize it, but what you are doing right there is witchcraft 101.
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Oh go bark up another tree!
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07-28-2017, 12:14 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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"You reap what you sow," is not witchcraft-- but I hope no one has to deal with mental illness and I am sure JB is not wishing mental illness on EB.
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I don't think he has to.
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07-28-2017, 12:17 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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I don't think he has to. 
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Pot shots take away from the legitimacy of the discussion though. Why must every discussion on AFF eventually degenerate into something that is not reflective of the Christianity we claim to possess?
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07-28-2017, 12:19 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
Evang.Benincasa, you mentioned that you were in a few therapy sessions in the past, leaving me with the impression that you've seen some counselors on at least a couple occasions. Did they express that perhaps you have any emotional or social disorders?
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07-28-2017, 12:20 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Pot shots take away from the legitimacy of the discussion though. Why must every discussion on AFF eventually degenerate into something that is not reflective of the Christianity we claim to possess?
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Oh, I was just joking. But the joke did lead to my previous post which is a question asking if EB was ever told that he had any emotional or social disorders. I ask this because it might explain why he's so excessively hostile against them. If they "diagnosed" (for lack of a better term) EB with some disorder and tried to pressure him into taking medications, I think most of us would understand his hostility. No one should be pressured into anything by a counselor.
It pains me to say it, but I feel like the conversation was rather civil before he returned to the thread.
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07-28-2017, 12:21 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
I challenge the reader to do the research on the following claims:
1. There is no such thing as a "chemical imbalance in the brain." No test exists that can determine some so-called "chemical imbalance".
2. Psychology (including psychiatry, and psychotherapy) is a "field" that was developed specifically as an applied "science" whose goal is social engineering on a grand scale. It was invented and is promoted for the express purpose of steering society towards a specific end-state by alteration of paradigms.
3. The vast majority of psychiatric treatments do not actually work as advertised, and are often worse than the conditions they pretend to treat.
4. The more psychiatry we have, the more mental illness we have. To the point that not trusting psychiatry is on the way to being labelled as a treatable mental illness.
Consider the following:
"Can we develop a clinically useful diagnostic system based on neuroscience and genetics? Not yet. "
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/direc...isorders.shtml
Not yet? That means there is currently, and never has been, any objective BIOLOGICAL method for diagnosing mental disorders. Just let that sink in for a moment. It means psychiatry is LITERALLY on the SAME LEVEL as tarot readings and shamanic vision quests - it's all about some white-coat's personal "intuitive" opinion, not SCIENCE.
Consider this:
"A major investigation into scores of claims made in psychology research journals has delivered a bleak verdict on the state of the science.
An international team of experts repeated 100 experiments published in top psychology journals and found that they could reproduce only 36% of original findings."
https://www.theguardian.com/science/...riment-results
Do you get that? It means the field of psychology is NOT ACTUAL SCIENCE. Well, what do you call something presented as science that isn't? PSEUDOSCIENCE, on the level of orgone therapy, crystal power, and psychic readers.
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07-28-2017, 12:23 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Esaias,
Have you ever seen this to be true in someone's life though? Where someone is dogmatic about a certain issue only to be challenged later on with that same issue?
How is acknowledging that phenomenon an example of witchcraft?
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Is that a "phenomenon"? Or is it wishful thinking?
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07-28-2017, 12:28 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Originally Posted by Esaias
I challenge the reader to do the research on the following claims:
1. There is no such thing as a "chemical imbalance in the brain." No test exists that can determine some so-called "chemical imbalance".
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There are laboratory biochemical/nutritional tests that can be performed to detect a chemical imbalance (first link I clicked out of 1,150,000 results):
https://www.patrickholford.com/advic...try-imbalances
Neurotransmitter tests measure blood platelet levels of dopamine, noradrenalin, adrenalin, serotonin and acetycholine. These levels are a good indicator of levels found in the fluid in the brain (the cerebrospinal fluid – CSF), thus indicating excesses, deficiencies and imbalances in neurotransmitters. This test is also available through doctors and nutritional therapists.
Kryptopyrrole or HPL test is a urine test for a chemical that, if raised in the urine, indicates increased oxidative stress and is associated with mental-health problems such as depression, confusion, anxiety and insomnia. It is a very useful indicator of a person’s need for zinc and vitamin B6, supplementation of which tends to normalise HPL levels. This test is available through doctors and nutritional therapists.
Zinc taste test is based on the fact that sufficient zinc is required to detect bitter, sour or metallic tastes. The client is given 10ml of a solution containing zinc, then asked to swish it around in his or her mouth for about ten seconds before swallowing it. Then they are asked to describe what they taste. If they report a distinct bitter, sour or metallic taste or a distinctly unpleasant taste, they are not zinc deficient. If they report no taste, or a ‘watery’ or ‘chalky’ taste, but not bitter, sour or metallic taste, they are most likely to be zinc deficient. Many nutritional therapists use this test. In our experience, it links well with other signs and symptoms of zinc deficiency, and is a good and inexpensive tool for monitoring the success or failure of zinc therapy.
Homocysteine is a potentially toxic amino acid associated with heart disease, strokes, cancer, abnormal blood clotting and over 100 other medical conditions (see The Homocysteine Solution for details). It is frequently elevated in those with a chemical addiction and especially alcoholics. The optimal level is 6–7µmol/l. The higher your level the more specific homocysteine-lowering nutrients, mainly B vitamins, you need. An extremely high level, above 20 µmol/l, is associated with an increased risk of alcohol withdrawal seizures and therefore should be corrected before beginning alcohol withdrawal. It is an excellent tool for indirectly measuring SAM, folic acid and methylation status. When it’s elevated, SAM, folic acid and methylation status is usually inadequate, so it’s a good functional test of whether you are lacking in these nutrients. Homocysteine can and should be tested by your doctor if you have any of the above, but rarely is. You can test it yourself with a home-test kit.
Essential fatty analysis, using red blood cell membranes. Low levels are often found when conditions of addictions occur together, such as depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, ADHD, cognitive impairment and irritability. This usually matches nicely with physical examination findings of essential fatty acid deficiency (dry skin, dandruff, dry unmanageable hair, ‘chicken skin’ on the backs of arms, pale-skin patches on cheeks, thickened cracked heel calluses, soft or brittle nails). Low levels indicate the need for both dietary and supplementary essential fats. Another useful test is a niacin patch test. The skin’s ability to blush when exposed to niacin depends on prostaglandins, made from essential fats. This test involves putting a patch of aqueous niacin on the skin and observing the severity of the blush within five minutes. No blushing indicates a lack of essential fats. Some nutritional therapists use this test.
Salivary cortisol and DHEA tests usually measure daily saliva cortisol levels, the adrenal stress hormone, at four different times of the day: morning, noon, early evening and bedtime, because they should rise and fall with the day. If they are too high in the evening this might explain, for example, insomnia, whereas if too low in the morning this would explain lethargy. DHEA is usually measured once as a measure of the adrenals’ ability to produce stress hormones and your stress levels. Elevated levels indicate excessive stress, and possibly excessive use of stimulants. Low levels of cortisol and DHEA indicate low adrenal function. Elevated cortisol levels are frequently observed in people who drink alcohol to excess or use drugs, and those in very early recovery. Low levels of cortisol, as found in adrenal fatigue or exhaustion, are commonly seen in depressed women in recovery. A doctor or nutritional therapist needs to interpret these results and make appropriate recommendations.
IgG food allergy/intolerance test measures IgG: delayed-onset food sensitivities. Food sensitivities cause or aggravate many conditions and symptoms linked to addiction, including sleep problems, food cravings, depression, anxiety, ADHD and chronic pain syndromes. Visit this page for more on allergies. Milk and wheat are the top two allergens detected among recovering clients. If they test positive, clients are asked to eliminate all moderate to severely allergic foods for at least three months. IgG food intolerance test kits are available from York Test.
Your doctor or nutritional therapist may also measure other standard biochemical indicators such as:
Liver function tests measuring AST (also called SGOT), ALT (also called SGPT), GGT, alkaline phosphatase and bilirubin. Blood levels of these are often elevated in people with alcohol liver injury – fatty livers, alcohol hepatitis and cirrhosis – as well as in clients with hepatitis C. These can be tested by your doctor. Your AST and ALT levels can also be measured by a simple pin-prick home blood test called the Livercheck. Since alkaline phosphatase is a zinc-dependent enzyme, low levels (below 55 units) are indicative of zinc deficiency, especially if accompanied by zinc deficiency symptoms. Extremely low levels (below 40) are frequently found in addicted clients with eating disorders.
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07-28-2017, 12:29 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Esaias,
Have you ever seen this to be true in someone's life though? Where someone is dogmatic about a certain issue only to be challenged later on with that same issue?
How is acknowledging that phenomenon an example of witchcraft?
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I will give 2 example that happened to me personally. In my late teen my best friend suffered with severe allergies, he would wear a half face respirator while mowing. I would laugh and poke fun... now 30 years later guess what?? My wife has suffered with anxiety, first few years of our marriage I did not believe her. I had my doubts about anxiety and depression. Well spring of 2015 I had a bout with anxiety. Thought I was having a heart attack. Ambulance called rushed to ER. Found out I am healthy as a 20 year old. Just anxiety , yes I refused meds and used some techniques that have worked. During this time there is no way a demon would have come within a mile of me. My wife still battles it from time to time. Now if some one like EB wants to claim I nor my wife have the Holy Ghost, o well I do not care. I know the life we live and the witness we have. There is a scripture for EB's unbelief. I cant recall book, chapter and verse.. For tongues is a sign not for the believer but the unbeliever.
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07-28-2017, 12:32 PM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Originally Posted by Esaias
2. Psychology (including psychiatry, and psychotherapy) is a "field" that was developed specifically as an applied "science" whose goal is social engineering on a grand scale. It was invented and is promoted for the express purpose of steering society towards a specific end-state by alteration of paradigms.
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The first thing I was able to pull on the origin of psychology was the following (out of 76,200,000 results):
http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the..._of_psychology
The word psychology is Greek and contains two Greek roots: Psyche meaning "mind" and logos meaning "study.". Psychology (the study of the mind and behaviors) began around 500 to 300 B.C. It all started with 3 main Greek philosophers: Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle. Socrates taught Plato and Plato later taught Aristotle.
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