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Old 07-28-2017, 02:14 PM
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America has abandoned God and lo and behold we are drowning in "mental disorders". We grope at noonday like it was midnight and are smitten with madness.
From the very founding of our country, we were hypocritical and clearly out of the will of God.
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Who here believes in learning disabilities?
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:12 PM
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4. The more psychiatry we have, the more mental illness we have. To the point that not trusting psychiatry is on the way to being labelled as a treatable mental illness.
Ever notice that the more pathology we have, the more infectious diseases we seem to discover? If we did away with pathologists, maybe we'd have fewer diseases? LOL
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Consider the following:

"Can we develop a clinically useful diagnostic system based on neuroscience and genetics? Not yet. "

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/direc...isorders.shtml

Not yet? That means there is currently, and never has been, any objective BIOLOGICAL method for diagnosing mental disorders. Just let that sink in for a moment. It means psychiatry is LITERALLY on the SAME LEVEL as tarot readings and shamanic vision quests - it's all about some white-coat's personal "intuitive" opinion, not SCIENCE.
That's an exaggeration. Also, it depends on the disorder.
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Consider this:

"A major investigation into scores of claims made in psychology research journals has delivered a bleak verdict on the state of the science.

An international team of experts repeated 100 experiments published in top psychology journals and found that they could reproduce only 36% of original findings."

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...riment-results

Do you get that? It means the field of psychology is NOT ACTUAL SCIENCE. Well, what do you call something presented as science that isn't? PSEUDOSCIENCE, on the level of orgone therapy, crystal power, and psychic readers.
The Guardian. Really? Does that make this claim, pseudo-news?
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:19 PM
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To the Guardian's article, I found this response to be interesting:


"all prescribed by questionable 'doctors' with close ties to the pharmaceutical industry"
Fairly ridiculous statement. I'm a doctor. I've prescribed anti-depressants in the past- with great reluctance- because patients wanted them. I have explained to every patient that there is a difference between a biological upset in the brain- which anti-depressants can treat- and a perfectly normal response to a horrible life event (break-up, death in the family etc) and that drugs won't do anything to help you if you are feeling wretched because your mother has terminal cancer/your husband has run away with his secretary/you've been sacked, in fact it will probably make them feel worse because they'll still be grieving/dumped but then they'll also be sad with physical and mental side effects. I've offered people talking therapies and NHS self-help guidance and still they are desperate for anti-depressants. And when faced with someone who is desperate and has pinned all their hopes on a "miracle" medication, it is hard to say no to them, when they think that is what could help them.

And I'm not remotely in the pocket of drug companies, I've never even met a psychiatric drug rep and I've only ever prescribed generic off-patent anti-depressants as per NICE guidelines.
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The witch of Endor – one possible way to look at psychiatry and meds.

The prophet, Samuel, said to Saul, "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king...for thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, and the LORD hath rejected thee from being king over Israel" (1st Samuel 15:23-26)... Saul was a rebel; i.e., he had to do everything his way instead of Gods...

Because Saul rejected God, he consulted with a witch who lived in Endor (1st Samuel 28:7)... Today, this would be likened to psychics, tarots, horoscopes, astrology, and psychiatrists... We read in 2nd Corinthians 10:5, "Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ."..

Saul committed a wicked sin by seeking guidance from an ungodly source, like witchcraft, sorcery. We can see by the definition of the word pharmakeia below that drugs can be related to sorcery.

pharmakeia: the use of medicine, drugs or spells
Original Word: φαρμακεία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: pharmakeia
Phonetic Spelling: (far-mak-i'-ah)
Short Definition: magic, sorcery, enchantment
Definition: magic, sorcery, enchantment.
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5331 pharmakeía (from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") – properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts, etc. (A. T. Robertson).
http://biblehub.com/greek/5331.htm
Eh, it's a stretch.

This is about using peyote, mushrooms, soma, hallucinogens, etc. as part of ritual practice in order to perform divination or channel some spirit.

It's not about the medicinal use of extracts, derivatives, or compounds. This assumption would make Alka-Seltzer a magic potion that could leave one in serious trouble with God. I honestly don't know of anyone who drank Alka-Seltzer and danced around an idol repeatedly chanting, "Plop-Plop Fizz-Fizz Plop-Plop Fizz-Fizz", in order to receive a vision of the future. lol

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I can see where we get our modern word, "pharmacy".

Should we abandon CVS?
My mother stopped going to CVS.

I showed her how to eat, and type 2 diabetes went away, and she stopped using her medication.
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Eh, it's a stretch.

This is about using peyote, mushrooms, and hallucinogens etc. as part of ritual practice in order to perform divination or channel some spirit.

It's not about the medicinal use of extracts, derivatives, or compounds.
its about using mind altering drugs
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