Very true, and sad. Not good for the forum as a whole,because many people seeking apostolic fellowship will just gravitate to other boards.
I guess my rhetorical response is "WHAT belief system"?
Is there really one?
This place is starting to feel more and more like an Ex-Apostolics forum.
Again, post some responses or start some discussion on what you see as correct. We feel we usually have a good balance here. Only balanced if we have participation from many.
Or do like some and tell the bitter, disgruntled ExApostolics to get over it. (nicely of course!)
TRFrance, I appreciate your imput on this board.
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Again, post some responses or start some discussion on what you see as correct. We feel we usually have a good balance here. Only balanced if we have participation from many.
Or do like some and tell the bitter, disgruntled ExApostolics to get over it. (nicely of course!)
TRFrance, I appreciate your imput on this board.
Thank you sir.
Much appreciated.
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How/why would anyone accuse you of being a Mormon or papist?
how would that even come up?
Dan A says we are sacramentalist and baptismal regenerationsists like the Catholic church.
I'm not sure I've been compared to a Mormon yet!
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How/why would anyone accuse you of being a Mormon or papist?
how would that even come up?
the AFF's most verbose has made these statements directly. (one might argue wheither or not the verbosity has resulted in anything actually being said.)
***edited under protest*** evidently someone decided i was name calling.
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I have no problem with MOW, Felicity or others who say they hold to a PCI version of doctrine. I disagree with them, but I respect them.
My problem is with those who come on here and call me a sacrementalist, papist, Mormon, holy grail protector just because I won't bend on doctrine.
It's all about agenda.
I think your problem is my problem. we arent clicking that little triangle in the corner and reporting those who make such an accusation.
The thing that really bothers me about our friend doing this is, that time and again, I went to bat for him because I believe that his position has a place here.
however that has turned from a point of doctrine to the same kind of baseball bat, Ultra-Cons get accused of using.
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You know what I find so interesting is that really this forum has caused me to re-think and challenge my beliefs and further my abililty to publicly state what I believe and understand about baptism and standards, and most topics having to do with doctrine, salvation, tradition, and culture, etc.
I would venture a guess that most garden variety Apostolic saint would have a difficult time were they put on the spot to totally exhaust their beliefs to someone else, and further have the abilty to instantly respond to the difficult questions posed here by various folks.
I would say that most apostolic pew sitters would break out in a cold sweat if their statement of belief was challenged from an academic standpoint and not necessarily from an antagonistic perspective.
You know why I say this? I have tried it and you know what? After the cold sweat, atomic anger and indignation follows.
I guess I said all that to say, I am glad folks can hit the topics from all sides, hopefully it gives folks a stronger ability to become an apologetic for their faith.
I have no problem with MOW, Felicity or others who say they hold to a PCI version of doctrine. I disagree with them, but I respect them.
My problem is with those who come on here and call me a sacrementalist, papist, Mormon, holy grail protector just because I won't bend on doctrine.
It's all about agenda.
I need to slow down my reading, I thought you guys were talking about a city in Northern California, the origin of nutrition for newborns, the Osmond family, morons, and Monty Python!
i have been in the church for over 38 years, i believe what i have believed since a teen, i am sure there are hundreds of ideas of what orthodoxy is on this forum, i havent changed, wont change, the bible is my guide and his spirit my leader, dt
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