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Old 06-05-2008, 07:49 PM
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We teach our children that famlies vary on this, but "shut up" is forbidden in our home.
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Do you prefer the softer words of "Be Quiet? What's the difference between "Be Quiet" and "Shut Up" I mean geez this is worse than me and RICO arguing over the original Greek meaning of "tongues"
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Old 06-05-2008, 07:52 PM
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WHY ?????

Do you prefer the softer words of "Be Quiet? What's the difference between "Be Quiet" and "Shut Up" I mean geez this is worse than me and RICO arguing over the original Greek meaning of "tongues"
When did we argue over that?
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Old 06-05-2008, 08:00 PM
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WHY ?????

Do you prefer the softer words of "Be Quiet? What's the difference between "Be Quiet" and "Shut Up" I mean geez this is worse than me and RICO arguing over the original Greek meaning of "tongues"
Shut up is rude and disrespectful. Be quiet doesn't have to be soft, you can be very firm without yelling.
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Shut up is rude and disrespectful. Be quiet doesn't have to be soft, you can be very firm without yelling.
Says who?
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WHY ?????

Do you prefer the softer words of "Be Quiet? What's the difference between "Be Quiet" and "Shut Up" I mean geez this is worse than me and RICO arguing over the original Greek meaning of "tongues"

Dr. Vaughn, would you PLEASE SHUT UP!!!!
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I'm not sure if this had been mentioned in the thread... I don't have a lot of time tonight so I skimmed.

As I watched the clip I was saddened but not really surprised. I've seen that behavior before and there is no excusing it, however; most of the time when a child of that size and age acts like that, there are 10-12 years of zero discipline lurking in the past.
Or if there was discipline, it was the 'slap for slap', 'holler for holler', 'rant for rant' kind.

A child doesn't just suddenly become that, at age 10... the problem started years before and was never dealt with.

So although that child would be a nightmare, I can only imagine that there were some things lacking in his upbringing.
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Old 06-05-2008, 07:48 PM
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I still feel that the kid was crying out for love. He kept making the point that she doesn't listen to him and tells him to shut up. I NEVER used "shut up" to my kids.

Also, she was controlled and didn't yell back at him because she knew she was being filmed. We don't know how she is when the camera is not rolling.

I don't believe the kid was right by any means, but just have to wonder if he's just needing some affirmation and love.
Oh he would have gotten P L E N T Y of love and affirmation's at my house.. my grandfather would have given him some of that "razor strap" affirmation.... Gosh "love and affirmation" sound ssooooo politically correct.. so ughhhh

He is loved when he is fed and trust me from the looks of it... he gets plenty of love.. he is loved when he is clothed and in his case that is XXX love.... he is loved when he is cared for ........ past all that baloney is he crossed the line and he better THANK JEHOVAH GOD HIMSELF that those cameras were rolling...
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Old 06-05-2008, 07:58 PM
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Oh he would have gotten P L E N T Y of love and affirmation's at my house.. my grandfather would have given him some of that "razor strap" affirmation.... Gosh "love and affirmation" sound ssooooo politically correct.. so ughhhh

He is loved when he is fed and trust me from the looks of it... he gets plenty of love.. he is loved when he is clothed and in his case that is XXX love.... he is loved when he is cared for ........ past all that baloney is he crossed the line and he better THANK JEHOVAH GOD HIMSELF that those cameras were rolling...
Love is having time to really listen to a toddler when they speak and hear what they say. Love is paying attention to all that they do so you can correct them when they are wrong. Love is taking the time to correct a child instead of berating them for something they really didn't know they did wrong. Love isn't getting angry or upset when they do something that makes us want to blow our top, but give them stiff consequences that make them not want to do it again. Children want a reaction and anger is a reaction that is better than you being calm and in control. They will continue to do what gets a reaction from you. Don't react even though you want to. Self control, one of the fruits of the spirit, is definitely something you need in parenting.
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I still feel that the kid was crying out for love. He kept making the point that she doesn't listen to him and tells him to shut up. I NEVER used "shut up" to my kids.

Also, she was controlled and didn't yell back at him because she knew she was being filmed. We don't know how she is when the camera is not rolling.

I don't believe the kid was right by any means, but just have to wonder if he's just needing some affirmation and love.
I just wonder how the kid got that way... the parents are the problem, I think. If he is like he is, it is her and her husbands fault.
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Anyone ever seen the other side of a sheetrock wall? Thats exactly what I saw one time when I tried something not quite as dramatic as that... i can still smell that sheetrock dust to this day.....oh that boy is a product of a "politically correct" world. A world held in a grip by CPS.. parents who live in fear of government agencies and will not correct their children... I will admit that I no longer correct my children publically because of the stares and glares of people... were living in a CRAZY world
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