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Old 06-10-2008, 02:41 PM
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Of course we are praying, but here are the steps we are taking

Notifying all local law enforcement
Changing Locks on the Church (they had keys)
Doing a Restraining Order
Hiring a Security Guard for Sunday Services
Notified the Sheriff who lives across from me on my street
Instituting a partner policy, no leader is to be alone at the church, we operate two by two now on
Pulled out my Glock 17, now loaded and is in an safe yet, accessable place

Thanks to all for the wisdom and spirit behind your posts, this is something they don't teach in Seminary.
Everything you're doing sounds good, except the gun.
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:41 PM
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Lol, Baron, looks like you and I are on the same wavelength, lol........I didn't see your post until after I'd posted mine.
It was just so easy like a fastball over the middle of the plate.
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Everything you're doing sounds good, except the gun.
I think it all sounds good, ESPECIALLY the gun!!!!!
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:57 PM
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Re: Please pray!!!

I am amazed that a backslider is being treated this way.

What happened to LOVE the sinner?

Gal 6:1-2
1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:07 PM
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I am amazed that a backslider is being treated this way.

What happened to LOVE the sinner?

Gal 6:1-2
1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
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I don't believe this is a case of just a backslider. I'm sure that Pastor Keith has had a backslider or two before and not had these concerns. When there are specific threats of violence made in a credible way, it would be irresponsible to not take them seriously. With the types of attacks we see in public places these days (even in churches), there is a moral obligation to make sure he protects his family, innocent church members, and himself.
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A prayer of protection for you, your family and church, in Jesus name!
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Serious situation with a former saint (was asked to leave this week) threatening myself and various members of the church. He just called me and threatened to kick my #bad word# when he sees me, this is a real bad situation that has ramifications for myself, my family and our church.

Please Pray

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I don't believe this is a case of just a backslider. I'm sure that Pastor Keith has had a backslider or two before and not had these concerns. When there are specific threats of violence made in a credible way, it would be irresponsible to not take them seriously. With the types of attacks we see in public places these days (even in churches), there is a moral obligation to make sure he protects his family, innocent church members, and himself.


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17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.

18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
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I am amazed that a backslider is being treated this way.

What happened to LOVE the sinner?

Gal 6:1-2
1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
KJV
Curious?

How would you handle a situation when someone threatened your family?
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:37 PM
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Dear Lord, Brother

What in the world did you do to cause a saint to react this way.

And does your action sound like Paul's instructions.

1 Cor 6:1
6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
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I am amazed that a backslider is being treated this way.

What happened to LOVE the sinner?

Gal 6:1-2
1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
KJV
This man was a minister in that church for several years. He has gotten progressively worse with his violence.

He has choked someone in the bathroom, beat up his brother in law (who is a brother in the Lord) at a car wash.

Keith had in front of him a plan of restoration for both him and his wife, but could not present it to him because he became violent.

He has threatened 3 other people on the phone, and in front of their home. He also has threatened to do bodily harm to these folks family members.

We have spoke to his family members and he feels backed in a corner and hard no choice but to fight his way out. His wife blames the former pastor for his behavior.

You can not help someone who thinks fighting their way out, and blame others for their actions.

I believe the scriptures say we are not to sue, we are not suing we are looking for protection.



Thank God my husband has enough brains to call the POLICE and protect his family and the church.
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:38 PM
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Curious?

How would you handle a situation when someone threatened your family?


I and my family have been "threatened" and we did as the Scriptures instructed and God gave us the victory.

What would you do?

I can't believe that some are advocating going to law or using a gun.
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