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08-04-2008, 07:37 PM
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Re: Why is it So Hard for God to do Miracles?
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
I believe God can do anything.
However, I often wonder why He doesn't do something.
Have you ever noticed how we make excuses for God?
We say things like, "well, there just wasn't enough faith in the room," or "it just wasn't God's will for that little child to be healed of cancer," or "just be patient, God will come through - just in time!"
I do not pretend to understand God, or the way He works. I don't know why He heals some and doesn't heal others.
But I do know this much.
Sometimes there is enough faith in the room and healing still doesn't take place.
Sometimes God doesn't "come through" like we think He should and great misery falls on those of us who absolutely, incorrectly, TRUSTED that the outcome would be positive.
What then?
Why is it so hard for God to do miracles?
It is not a question of ability. So, what then?
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PP, I haven't read past where you quoted the original post again, but I want to answer you on this.
In you post you stated:
Sometimes there is enough faith in the room and healing still doesn't take place.
In stating this, you admitted that there wasn't really enough faith in the room for healing. Faith does not look at the seen, but the unseen. Faith says "I am healed" whether there is a visible manifestation or not, because faith rests in the fact that Christ bore our sicknesses, and carried our pains (Isa 53:4 YLT), and made the provision necessary for all who will come in faith and receive. True faith does not look forward in expectation to a promise being fulfilled, but walks with the promise already possessed, and calls those things that be not, as though they were.
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08-04-2008, 07:47 PM
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Re: Why is it So Hard for God to do Miracles?
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Originally Posted by shag
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So, IYO, everyone healed in the N.T. including the lame man had "NOW" faith, or "God has already done it" faith, that they would be healed, and if they hadn't had, then they would not have have been healed?
I can think of a few times where miracle believing people prayed for miracle-healing believing people that needed to be healed. And their bodies did not get healed. I don't believe it was their lack of mustard seed faith, from either "party". If they didn't believe in healing, they would not have asked to get prayed for, to be healed.
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Most of the time they are believing that God is going to heal them, not that God has already done it, and they just need to receive it with their little mustard seed of faith.
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08-04-2008, 07:49 PM
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Re: Why is it So Hard for God to do Miracles?
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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry
Most of the time they are believing that God is going to heal them, not that God has already done it, and they just need to receive it with their little mustard seed of faith.
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I think we are in agreement on this subject.
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08-04-2008, 07:52 PM
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Re: Why is it So Hard for God to do Miracles?
1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
Did this healing take place in the past, present, or future?
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08-04-2008, 07:53 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: Why is it So Hard for God to do Miracles?
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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry
You should never ask God to do something He has already done. Almost every post on this thread has some implication of God doing something.
Since Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, God has already bought and paid for healing for everyone. God always answers every request for healing. He never fails to honor His promises.
The problem being discussed, is always on the receiving end. It's not a lack of faith. It only takes a small mustard seed of faith. The person seeking healing must believe that " God "is: NOW. That's present tense. " Now faith is". You don't need much, but it must be " Now". The person seeking healing must not have "doubt". "If you have faith and doubt not,...you shall say,'......mountain, Be thou removed...' ." ( Mat 21:21) It is possible to have faith and doubt at the same time, and one will neutralize the other.
That's just three simple rules. 1) Believe that God has already done it. 2) Don't doubt that it is done. 3) Say to the sickness, "Sickness, be thou removed".
God has never failed. God has never said no to any of His promises. If you don't see it happen, then the person seeking healing, did not follow one of these three simple rules. (Matt 7:7-8)
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Gee, where were you when my ex-pastor was laying in a bed with his head swollen larger than the size of a basketball? I am sure the dozens of preachers, pastors, and evangelists that were praying with and for him would have appreciated knowing about your sure-fire method for healing. Maybe he would have lived, instead of dying while trusting God.
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08-04-2008, 08:08 PM
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Re: Why is it So Hard for God to do Miracles?
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Originally Posted by Stephanas
And there you have it, the "Word of Faith" gospel in a nutshell - if you're sick, it's your fault.
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Actually, Steph, I spent years meditating scriptures, saying the word, working to build MY faith, but I finally found out that MY faith is virtually worthless, because it is inconsistent and wanes. It does not stay steady. It had become such a cumbersome "works doctrine" that I discarded it.
The only faith that works is the faith of Jesus. Jesus believed that if He would take my punishment then I could go free. The same suffering that saved me, also healed me, and delivered me from poverty. I found out that all I needed was a little mustard seed of faith to believe that Jesus did a very good job of dying for the sins of the whole world, of taking our infirmities and bearing our sickness, and redeeming us from the curse of the law, so that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles though Jesus Christ; .
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08-04-2008, 08:28 PM
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Re: Why is it So Hard for God to do Miracles?
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Originally Posted by Rico
Gee, where were you when my ex-pastor was laying in a bed with his head swollen larger than the size of a basketball? I am sure the dozens of preachers, pastors, and evangelists that were praying with and for him would have appreciated knowing about your sure-fire method for healing. Maybe he would have lived, instead of dying while trusting God.
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I'm very sorry your pastor died, Bro Rico. Why didn't you call me? I might have been able to help.
All those preachers etc, just added to the unbelief in the room. They just came to see the show. Jesus would have put them all out, before He healed him.
Furthermore, Brother Rico; with all due respect to your pastor, it's impossible for you to know whether he was trusting God or not.
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08-04-2008, 08:41 PM
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Re: Why is it So Hard for God to do Miracles?
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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry
I'm very sorry your pastor died, Bro Rico. Why didn't you call me? I might have been able to help.
All those preachers etc, just added to the unbelief in the room. They just came to see the show. Jesus would have put them all out, before He healed him.
Furthermore, Brother Rico; with all due respect to your pastor, it's impossible for you to know whether he was trusting God or not.
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Larry, you have completely lost your marbles now. This man taught to trust God over anything and everything that ails us, including headaches and any other little thing that might go wrong. He didn't have a bit of trouble with his faith, nor believing the Word of God. You have come way, way, way too late to try to convince me of that. My personal opinion is that he should have just gotten some anti-biotics to treat the infection before it got too bad. But he didn't do that. He chose to trust God.
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08-04-2008, 09:25 PM
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Re: Why is it So Hard for God to do Miracles?
I'm not against Dr.'s.
"They that are whole need not a physican, but they that are sick".
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08-04-2008, 10:06 PM
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Re: Why is it So Hard for God to do Miracles?
All those preachers etc, just added to the unbelief in the room. They just came to see the show. Jesus would have put them all out, before He healed him.
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Bro. Larry,
Please explain this further. They were just there to see the show? I don't quite understand. Thanks.
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