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Old 02-21-2009, 12:40 AM
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Old 02-21-2009, 10:03 AM
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Barb, loved your post! You should get on the soapbox more often!

The thing is is that Dan calls threestepper's heretics. He has taken on the mantle of those who are divisive amongst the threestepper crowd and now uses it to support the onestepper doctrine in the same divisive manner.

It's really sad we couldn't stay in the same fellowship (UPC) and fellowship the difference because the end result is the same.
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:06 PM
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Barb, loved your post! You should get on the soapbox more often!

The thing is is that Dan calls threestepper's heretics. He has taken on the mantle of those who are divisive amongst the threestepper crowd and now uses it to support the onestepper doctrine in the same divisive manner.

It's really sad we couldn't stay in the same fellowship (UPC) and fellowship the difference because the end result is the same.
Amen to that!!
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Old 02-21-2009, 06:04 PM
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Barb, loved your post! You should get on the soapbox more often!

The thing is is that Dan calls threestepper's heretics. He has taken on the mantle of those who are divisive amongst the threestepper crowd and now uses it to support the onestepper doctrine in the same divisive manner.

It's really sad we couldn't stay in the same fellowship (UPC) and fellowship the difference because the end result is the same.



That is part of my vision for our church, along with tolerance for each others' "standards" or "convictions". We need to quit judging one another and work together to advance God's kingdom. The devil laughs at our division!
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Old 02-21-2009, 06:34 PM
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That is part of my vision for our church, along with tolerance for each others' "standards" or "convictions". We need to quit judging one another and work together to advance God's kingdom. The devil laughs at our division!
The devil instigates our division.

Sounds like your vision is in sync with Christ's vision for His church.
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That is part of my vision for our church, along with tolerance for each others' "standards" or "convictions". We need to quit judging one another and work together to advance God's kingdom. The devil laughs at our division!
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The devil instigates our division.

Sounds like your vision is in sync with Christ's vision for His church.
I agree!!

We who boldly declare that we have truth cannot get along with our brother...tragic!!
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Barb, loved your post! You should get on the soapbox more often!

The thing is is that Dan calls threestepper's heretics. He has taken on the mantle of those who are divisive amongst the threestepper crowd and now uses it to support the onestepper doctrine in the same divisive manner.

It's really sad we couldn't stay in the same fellowship (UPC) and fellowship the difference because the end result is the same.

I agree with Barb's comments.
I was raised in a PAJC// UPC congregation and had no idea there were any differences between the PCI and PAJC.

First of all, we shouldn't rewrite history

If the UPC founding fathers could be tolerant, who are we to be judge and jury?
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Barb, loved your post! You should get on the soapbox more often!

The thing is is that Dan calls threestepper's heretics. He has taken on the mantle of those who are divisive amongst the threestepper crowd and now uses it to support the onestepper doctrine in the same divisive manner.

It's really sad we couldn't stay in the same fellowship (UPC) and fellowship the difference because the end result is the same.
I called your doctrine of repentance + baptism as heretical, Mizpeh. Of which you have labeled yourself as a heretic. Don't play martyr ... woman up and grab a Kleenex.

Now .... it does seem that your agenda is to paint with the brush of false witness making this thread about Dan ...

The mantel of the 1990's 3 stepper crowd is one of disfellowship, Mizpeh and it's still around today ... see WPF.

The difference is I can think your baptismal regenerationist view that you support with "pagan" Catholic thinkers that you dogmatically refute on their views of the Godhead ... but parade to support BR doctrine ... is PATENTLY false ... but I consider you a sister in Christ and will fellowship you...

Nor, like you, do I dismiss those in the blood bought Body of Christ ... as going to hell ... "let God be their judge" (the catchphrase) .... because they haven't followed your equational formula or experienced tongues ...

Your doctrine by definition disfellowships most of the Body ...

add standards and that pretty much ... makes you, Mizzy, a backslidden Apostolic sympathizer.

Deal w/ the facts. Not aspersions ....

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I called your doctrine of repentance + baptism as heretical, Mizpeh. Of which you have labeled yourself as a heretic. Don't play martyr.
Dan, it only stands to reason that if you call the doctrine heretical then those who believe that doctrine are heretics. Don't play coy, Dan.

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Now your agenda is to paint with the brush of false witness ... The mantel of the 1990's 3 stepper crowd is one of disfellowship, Mizpeh and it's still around today ... see WPF.
This mantle (or spirit of division) is the same one in the 1990's 3 stepper crowd, the WPF crowd, and the one you are exhibiting when you call your brother/sister a heretic. Literally, Dan, you are being played by a demonic spirit.

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The difference is I can think your baptismal regenerationist view that you support with pagan Catholic thinkers that you dogmatically refute on their views of the Godhead ... but parade to support BR doctrine ... is PATENTLY false ... but I consider you a sister in Christ and will fellowship you...
I feel the same way about you, Dan. We are both part of the body of Christ because we both have been baptized into Christ and made to drink of His Spirit.

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Nor, like you, do I dismiss those in the Body of Christ ... as going to hell ... "let God be their judge" because they haven't followed your equational formula.
That's big of you, Dan. Now, who's casting aspersions?

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Deal w/ the facts. Not aspersions ....
The fact is you called me a heretic again but will not admit it. I'm over it, Dan, and have been over it for a long time.

I won't keep up a tit for tat dialogue with you on this. I pointed something out which I find ironic. Take it any way you like but I wish you would take it with much thoughtfulness and prayer. You don't want to become the thing you hate.
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Re: Loren Yadon's: Tragedies of War????

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...Your doctrine by definition disfellowships most of the Body ... add standards and that pretty much ... makes you, a backslidden Apostolic sympathizer.

Deal w/ the facts. Not aspersions ....

Signed ... NOT THE WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING ...
This is over the line and uncalled for. I am surprised at you Dan. Please apologize, by pm to the injured party.
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