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11-21-2011, 09:57 PM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
Nope, I have never met the man nor heard him preach a message. I am going to have to, but I am not going to do anything like that probably until after Thanksgiving. I have a lot of hours left to work, and then I am going out of town. However, I wait to judge anything until I have heard it for myself, or have it from someone I highly trust.
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11-22-2011, 06:42 AM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by Jay
Nope, I have never met the man nor heard him preach a message. I am going to have to, but I am not going to do anything like that probably until after Thanksgiving. I have a lot of hours left to work, and then I am going out of town. However, I wait to judge anything until I have heard it for myself, or have it from someone I highly trust.
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I'm like that too. What I'm hearing is coming from a very prominent minister - it's actually affecting his family.
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11-22-2011, 05:48 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
it was pride that caused Lucifer to be cast out of heaven...
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11-22-2011, 06:30 AM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
Yes indeed Sis. Alvear. I think the point Jay may be making is that Jewelry is associated to pride and vanity.
Honestly, I don't see much point in wearing jewelry besides my wedding ring, but neither do I see it as a sinful thing UNLESS the person doing so truly has a pride problem and thinks they are somethign special because they can wear gawdy jewelry.
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11-22-2011, 07:16 AM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
You know the mentality though Sherri. If you give an inch...some peopel can't stop and have to have the whole mile. That is why some men refuse to even give the inch, even when scripture doesn't prohibit something.
We all know at least one woman who takes the jewelry thing to insane excesses. I have no real problem with jewelry, but I have issue with outright vanity and excess in buying all the jewelry a person can possibly handle. Some men just feel they are avoiding the problem completely by creating a prohibiton on jewelry that doesn't exist in scripture.
Some go as far as to even ban the rubber bracelets. Never mind that the very definition of jewelry demands that it be some sort of jewels or costly material so rubber bracelets don't fit the definition at all.
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11-22-2011, 02:04 PM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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You know the mentality though Sherri. If you give an inch...some peopel can't stop and have to have the whole mile. That is why some men refuse to even give the inch, even when scripture doesn't prohibit something.
We all know at least one woman who takes the jewelry thing to insane excesses. I have no real problem with jewelry, but I have issue with outright vanity and excess in buying all the jewelry a person can possibly handle. Some men just feel they are avoiding the problem completely by creating a prohibiton on jewelry that doesn't exist in scripture.
Some go as far as to even ban the rubber bracelets. Never mind that the very definition of jewelry demands that it be some sort of jewels or costly material so rubber bracelets don't fit the definition at all.
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So, punish the group for the sins of a few? Doesn't make sense to me. Some people have a problem overeating and regularly make a foray into gluttony, but do we forbid the entire congregation to eat? Some people miss church for work regularly, but do we forbid the congregation to work?
This is the issue we've had, we don't deal with the problem with individuals, we make blanket rules.
Just my opinion.
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11-22-2011, 09:42 AM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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WOW...we heard him minister tonight...Has anyone heard him minister?
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every time I have heard him I have been amazed and inspired.
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11-22-2011, 10:41 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
Just heard him one time and the sermon I heard had nothing out of the way in it...I do not know him so cannot say much...hope he is ok..
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11-22-2011, 01:15 PM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
Context is important.
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11-22-2011, 02:16 PM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
His name rang a bell. So, I searched online for him. He came and preached for us about 2 years ago. What disgusted me more than anything was, within the first few minutes of him stepping up on the platform, even after a powerful worship atmosphere with the musicians, he had the audacity to tell the congregants, "Oh come on, if you can go to a football game and get loud and get crazy, you need to do the same for Jesus Christ," or something to that affect.
I wanted to stand up and ask him: "Dude, did you just not realize what happened BEFORE you stepped on the platform, or were you too busy with other things on your mind?"
I wasn't impressed after that...
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