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07-31-2012, 12:42 PM
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Re: Why I Hate Debate So Much.
Those of you that agree with me are correct. The rest of you, not so much.
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07-31-2012, 12:45 PM
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Re: Why I Hate Debate So Much.
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Originally Posted by Bishop Cleatus
Those of you that agree with me are correct. The rest of you, not so much.
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Bishop how about I agree to disagree.....just saying
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07-31-2012, 01:46 PM
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Re: Why I Hate Debate So Much.
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I've learned a lot about myself through debate. For example, when I thought I knew everything, I debated much harder. Then, found out I really didn't know too much. 
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07-31-2012, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by navygoat1998
Bishop how about I agree to disagree.....just saying 
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I accept.
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07-31-2012, 03:57 PM
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Re: Why I Hate Debate So Much.
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I don't know about you, but I come here to change my mind; I'd have to list Dordt as someone who has changed my mind, actually, and we might be read as being barely civil to each other. Our opinions are quite different on many issues; but I would consider it a loss if I got no reply from him.
Admittedly, we tend to be quite sure of ourselves in this country, and often don't debate very well. I think this reflects a general level of frustration, maybe, that I note lessens as time goes by, toward replies especially. You are relatively new to this format, yes? You will have a different view, I think, after another year of it. One learns, hopefully, to read what is meant rather than what might be said; and those that do not, or have not yet, needn't be engaged?
But don't be deceived that your light doesn't shine
despite a snarky reply...and examine them all for truth, imo.
Tough to upset someone with something that contains no truth.
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I don't know exactly why I come here anymore. It changes as I come here different times. Sometimes it's to just be around friends. Other times it's to lose myself. Sometimes it's to channel emotions no human being with a right mind could understand. Other times it's to be understood. Sometimes it's to be heard. Sometimes it's to hear. Sometimes it's for advice. Sometimes it's because I feel so strongly about something that I have to be heard. And sometimes....it's just to have a place that I can call my very own, other than the little cage I'm trapped in that's known as the human mind. I have a thousand different thoughts at the same time sometimes, but I'm still human, and can only process one thought at a time. Right now, that thought is I have an apology to make. I don't think having the mind of Christ has been a particularly high priority on my list as of late. I've been quite angry, and not someone who I normally am. I'm scared to let myself express at most times, because when I let myself speak like my mind wants to speak, this is exactly what happens. I lose control, I say whatever thought is currently on my mind, my emotions become twisted, I take things personally, I become paranoid, and it feels like every single person I interact with is against me in some way. You could say something as simple as "I love you" and I suspect a hidden agenda. So anyways...here's my apology.
Houston, I apologize for the way I reacted to what you said. I have no excuse for my actions. I am the scum of the earth. What you said could have been taken one of two ways, and I, like a fool, chose the worst possible way. After considering how what we said to each other went down all night, and my conscience eating a hole in my heart, I realize that more than likely, you had no ill intention in saying that. I just felt like you were using what I confided (foolishly) to this forum in a malicious way. I have a way of taking things personal when something sensitive like that is spoken about. I don't deserve it, but I ask you to forgive me, please.
I guess in a nutshell....when I was young, I was thought of as brilliant. I was adding and subtracting before I was in kindergarten. When I was in second grade, I knew things that kids in sixth grade struggled with. I was destined to be a doctor, or something great like that. I was going to do things. And now...the weight of the world came down, reality set in, I'm not brilliant anymore. I'm diagnosed with various things, and I'm not even normal enough to cope with life without the aid of medication. From what I was to what I've become to where I'm headed....You have to admit, if you went from being a king to a begger rapidly, your mood wouldn't be the greatest either.
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Last edited by The Matt; 07-31-2012 at 04:04 PM.
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07-31-2012, 04:28 PM
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Re: Why I Hate Debate So Much.
Hey Matt,
I empathize with you. I want you to realize that there are people who still believe in you-- in your ability to be brilliant, to lead. There are people who love you for the man you are, for the man you are able to become, and at the end of the day, they will love you for the man that you ultimately do become.
Remember, if Our Father didn't believe in you, He could have just cut you off. However, you're still here and He KNOWS that there are things for you to accomplish.
You are the best man for our God to use to accomplish whatever it is that He has for you to do. GOD doesn't make bad investments. You're not through and He's not through with you.
Unfulfilled dreams can be a source of pain, but don't let them go. Your untapped potential can still be tapped and as long as you are breathing. With Christ, you have the ability to do great things-- despite what reality is yelling today.
Tell me, what is faith?
Matt, I am glad to see you, whenever you post here.
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07-31-2012, 04:40 PM
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Re: Why I Hate Debate So Much.
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Hey Matt,
I empathize with you. I want you to realize that there are people who still believe in you-- in your ability to be brilliant, to lead. There are people who love you for the man you are, for the man you are able to become, and at the end of the day, they will love you for the man that you ultimately do become.
Remember, if Our Father didn't believe in you, He could have just cut you off. However, you're still here and He KNOWS that there are things for you to accomplish.
You are the best man for our God to use to accomplish whatever it is that He has for you to do. GOD doesn't make bad investments. You're not through and He's not through with you.
Unfulfilled dreams can be a source of pain, but don't let them go. Your untapped potential can still be tapped and as long as you are breathing. With Christ, you have the ability to do great things-- despite what reality is yelling today.
Tell me, what is faith?
Matt, I am glad to see you, whenever you post here.
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Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. To me, faith is believing in the unbelievable, the untappable wonder that is good that can come from any source, good or bad. It's the desire in the human spirit to overcome. The zeal of a newborn convert. The inability to give up on something. The knowledge in a child's heart that mommy will take care of everything. The insane thought of hope in a hopeless situation. Faith keeps us alive. Faith keeps us from dying spiritually. Faith is the breath of fresh air when the enemy is pushing down on your lungs. Faith is unfailing. When you are looking at a mack truck bearing down on you on a one lane road with bumper rails on the sides, there is no way you are not going to die, faith allows you to scream JESUS HELP ME! Faith is dangerous. Because when you have all the faith in the world, and you are continually let down, faith doesn't let you accept reality. Sorry to kill your buzz.
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07-31-2012, 04:47 PM
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Re: Why I Hate Debate So Much.
Faith allows me to believe that after I backslid last time, when I met up with that young, zealous, full of faith young man at the job I was working, when he started witnessing to me and I found out he was a tongue talking pentecostal....that when I mocked him, and told him, "Well buddy, I've lived that life. I've played that game. And I can tell you only one thing. I can talk in tongues right now, this very minute, and then I can curse you in the next. Because it isn't real." Well....faith let's me believe I didn't blaspheme the Holy Ghost right there.
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07-31-2012, 04:51 PM
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Re: Why I Hate Debate So Much.
Hey Matt! Hi from another MENSA type... and another who did nothing with it!
For years I was disappointed with what I saw as my failure but really it was God leading me down a road I'd never envisioned... and today I know that I am right where I am supposed to be. Amazing!
Those were some dark times, really dark but they have helped me appreciate how it is now.
I would miss you if you left, really I would... and I think you know I lack anything close to the ability to flatter.
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07-31-2012, 04:54 PM
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Re: Why I Hate Debate So Much.
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Originally Posted by Titus2woman
Hey Matt! Hi from another MENSA type... and another who did nothing with it!
For years I was disappointed with what I saw as my failure but really it was God leading me down a road I'd never envisioned... and today I know that I am right where I am supposed to be. Amazing!
Those were some dark times, really dark but they have helped me appreciate how it is now.
I would miss you if you left, really I would... and I think you know I lack anything close to the ability to flatter. 
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I doubt I'm going anywhere. Thanks t squared w. Always good to hear from you.
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