Selling Out to Cash In.... Ex-Apostolics...

[revrandy]

J-Tull..

The new birth experiance is plainly found in the Word of God in the New Testament... I'm sorry you can't accept it.. or see it.. as essential for our Salvation..

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by revrandy

J-Tull..

The new birth experiance is plainly found in the Word of God in the New Testament... I'm sorry you can't accept it.. or see it.. as essential for our Salvation..

He doesn't know what the earnest of our inheritance is, so why am I surprised he can't se it as essential.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by revrandy

J-Tull..

The new birth experiance is plainly found in the Word of God in the New Testament... I'm sorry you can't accept it.. or see it.. as essential for our Salvation..

I never said it was not essential. Salvation is not done through an equation of steps only. To say that someone repents, baptized and received the HG is saved...That is as bad as once saved always saved.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

I never said it was not essential. Salvation is not done through an equation of steps only. To say that someone repents, baptized and received the HG is saved...That is as bad as once saved always saved.

Your quibbleing because you know I am not saying that either..but your are defending someone who leaves what you believe as essential to preach or promote a different message than that of the Bible...

[SDG]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Your quibbleing because you know I am not saying that either..but your are defending someone who leaves what you believe as essential to preach or promote a different message than that of the Bible...

As long as you hold your position RevR ... anyone who thinks differently and goes on TV ... will always be selling out and cashing in .... PERSPECTIVE IS EVERYTHING ....

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

As long as you hold your position RevR ... anyone who thinks differently and goes on TV ... will always be selling out and cashing in .... PERSPECTIVE IS EVERYTHING ....

No.. because there are times I thought we should be.. and times I've thought we shouldn't be.. I am still a little divided about that..

others times I've thought we should have done it years ago...

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

As long as you hold your position RevR ... anyone who thinks differently and goes on TV ... will always be selling out and cashing in .... PERSPECTIVE IS EVERYTHING ....

If they promote the false trinity doctrine they are.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by revrandy

There is no power at repentance only... the Power comes with the Infilling of the Holy Ghost.. else Peter would have preached... when asked what must we do to be saved..

"Repent of your sins and that's it... God's Spirit is in you"...

Originally Posted by revrandy

Your quibbleing because you know I am not saying that either..but your are defending someone who leaves what you believe as essential to preach or promote a different message than that of the Bible...

Dude.....

You are interesting. Good converstaionalist too.

I am not defending people that stop believing in what Acts 2:38 says to do in response to the Message. I am defending these people right to go on tv and do what they do.

The truth is that if the UPC was not soooooooooo against the tv thing that most of these men and women would not have left. Because they left they are suddenly written off as following another doctrine. The truth is that most that left the UPC and are on TBN still believe the same things. They may not follow a dress code, but everything else is still intact.

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Dude.....

You are interesting. Good converstaionalist too.

I am not defending people that stop believing in what Acts 2:38 says to do in response to the Message. I am defending these people right to go on tv and do what they do.

The truth is that if the UPC was not soooooooooo against the tv thing that most of these men and women would not have left. Because they left they are suddenly written off as following another doctrine. The truth is that most that left the UPC and are on TBN still believe the same things. They may not follow a dress code, but everything else is still intact.

I disagree with you, unless of course they never believed Apostolic doctrine to begin with.

If I believe that it takes Jesus name Baptism, and the infilling of the holy ghost to make it, and then I go on TBN and lead sinners in a "sinners prayer", and then tell them they are saved, do I really believe what I used to??

[SDG]

What does one do to receive ??? The gift of the HG is given my dear friend ....