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Old 08-17-2012, 06:26 AM
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Re: Convicted to STOP Romney

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Folks, JD is sitting back and laughing...

He likes to stir the pot...


Deacon, I wrote an essay, a rough draft, that I posted. I am interested in your response to the points I bring up.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:41 AM
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Re: Convicted to STOP Romney

Praxeas--
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread871137/pg1


Somebody else's point is pasted below.

""I would argue the difference is that conservatives have railed against Obama for not repealing these...along with liberals who are not happy either...but Conservatives are prepared to cheer Ryan for supporting the same bills, acts and provisions?

It just gets so **** confusing.

Patriot Act - Obama = Facist, Hitler, Marxist...taking away your "freedoms.

Patriot Act - Romney/Ryan = American Pie???

Socialized Healthcare? Romney in MA = American Pie...HCR Obama (modeled after Romney's plan)...Socialism!!!

It seems that the far right's outrage is not based on actual substance...but just the opposite.....whatever it takes to get "that man" out of the whitehouse.

Romney's Flip-Flopping nature seems to be contageous and has spread to the whole GOP!

Patriot Act? NDAA? Indefinite Detention??? NO PROBLEM! We love it now....Just get "that man" out of office.""
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:41 AM
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So what would you do about homsexuals and pedophiles then PO? Since they are sinners and you don't want any "pandering" to them...how do you deal with them?

As I mentioned before, I suppose you would encourage them to be taken out of society and put into camps maybe? Dropped on some island and left for dead? Barred from working any job or functioning in "d3ecent" society perhaps? You are the type who probably loved HUckabee when he ran in 08 and said he would like to wrewrite the constitution to be more CHristian.

Do you have any clue how bad your comments sound? Your gay coments make me think maybe you have a white robe and hood in your closet.

We should not endorse sin, but we also shouldn't treat sinners like lepers or effectively make it impossible for them to live in society. Maybe some want a theocratic country where only those who live "right" are allowed rights here, but I don't. I think the free society we have is pretty great.

If you have such a problem with gays, perhaps try to win them to CHrist that He may heal them instead of arguing their ban from society.
I supported McCain and am on record, here, as stating Huckabee would never be president because, he is a big goober.

I'm going to disregard most of your hysterical, pro-gay agenda comments and get to the point.

In 2000, the Supreme Court upheld the Boy Scout's ruling - “membership to individuals who are open or avowed homosexuals or who engage in behavior that would become a distraction to the mission of the BSA."

They ruled that the First Amendment’s freedom of association allows private organizations to exclude whomever they choose.

For any person or candidate that would desire to make some semblance of a gesture to uphold those rights and keep our country on the moral high ground, simply would not add to their comments - "I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation."

They are simply siding against our First Amendment rights AND siding against the Supreme Court's ruling. It is political pandering and continues to keep the misguided fight alive.

If Romney wasn't such a schmuck, he would have said, "I side with the Supreme Court's ruling as that gives every American and American organization or business the right to exist on it's own personal merit. After all, that is what the history of our country was founded upon - freedom."

That is the conversation that should have taken place, years ago, by people with intestinal fortitude who should have sided with the same ruling as the Supreme Court - period.

You are advocating the same thing that the homosexual movement is pushing on us - accept us and accept our rights - IN THE MEAN TIME - we do not accept your beliefs and your rights under the same Constitution. We are supposed to kowtow to their whims, pushing our beliefs aside. That has become a very strange conservation in this country.

I am also on record, here, saying that I am offended any time I hear the ridiculous comment, "God didn't make Adam and Steve." That is condescending and you don't play around with gripping, clutching sin in any category.

To be forced to push the Bible, i.e. Romans 1 aside in favor of political correctness is untenable and this country is already paying for that.

We are discussing a heated topic here which has EVERYTHING to do with our First Amendment rights and NOTHING to do with putting on a white hooded robe and banning anyone from society. Take a chill pill.
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"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all." ~ President Ronald Reagan

This Reagan quote is exactly what the RNC is trying to do to us, the question is, does it make you mad?
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:54 AM
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I don't think Ryan is a moderate at all and I think Mitt is right of center so im not at all moved by your Reagan quote.

Further, your type would have considered Reagan himself a moderate after his tenure in California and some of the things he had to pass and compromise on to get things done in that atmosphere, so really...I consider the source. Reagan was a great conservative, but he took some moderate and even liberal opinions when viewed from a lense of conservatism circa 2012.

I believe Mitt *could* do just the same. Govern moderately while in a very liberal state, but also able to be a staunch conservative when no longer beholden to liberal voters in that state.
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:19 AM
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Deacon, I wrote an essay, a rough draft, that I posted. I am interested in your response to the points I bring up.
I went to the link I'm not sure what you wrote. Are you Indigo5 on that site?
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:29 AM
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Honestly the rationale for voting for Obama or for someone other than Romney is perplexing, unless, I deed you are a true believer in socialism.

I KNOW what I'm going to get with President Obama the next four years. He's showed us enough even with trying to be careful tonged reelected. Another four years will be even worse. There is a ZERO percent chance he will espouse anything remotely conservative.

I have plenty of reservations about Romney. Not nearly as many as Obama. And bei g a PA of the GOP nationally he will have to be beholden to the conservative base or there will be heck to pay. There's at least a measure of a chance to get conservative ideals forwarded with his administration.

So what is it? ZERO with Obama, or at least a 20%, 30%, 40%, 50% or maybe even more under Romney that conservatism will be a guiding factor in economic, domestic and foreign policies?

It's a no brainer. I can't believe people have to pause and think about it.

Again, unless you are a true socialist and embrace it's ideals.
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I went to the link I'm not sure what you wrote. Are you Indigo5 on that site?
No, no. The essay I wrote is on AFF and I don't know who Indigo5 is. I just like what that person had to say.
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No, no. The essay I wrote is on AFF and I don't know who Indigo5 is. I just like what that person had to say.
Wheres the essay?
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Wheres the essay?
The "Political Implications of Free-Will" thread.
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