Writing a letter to my pastor

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Just an observation most folks advising don't have a pastor and some do not even attend an Apostolic church. Remember what David said about the counsel of the ungodly.

I have a pastor, thankfully I don't attend an Apostolic church, so for that reason I have not offered my advice.

When my wife and I left, we sat down with our old pastor and told him we were leaving and told him why. The one thing we did not do is ask his blessing, his blessing would have came with curses.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Just an observation most folks advising don't have a pastor and some do not even attend an Apostolic church. Remember what David said about the counsel of the ungodly.

I don't attend church anywhere. I suggested you talk to him face to face. You better not listen to me!

I was a very faithful church attender for 19 years. My husband and I pastored for 10. I personally think that counts for something. As a matter of fact, I know it does.

[Rose]

Even in fleeing David honored Saul's position by restraining himself and his men from killing Saul. He also confronted Saul about their situation.

From personal experiences I believe face to face meetings are best.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Just an observation most folks advising don't have a pastor and some do not even attend an Apostolic church. Remember what David said about the counsel of the ungodly.

You're right Steve, I noticed that not one person commented on my advise, folks just can't receive godly counsel, can they!! LOL

Fact is, most folks will work things our for themselves, they just want someone to listen to their situation, then they do what THEY are able to do. They really don't want someone to tell them what to do.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Just an observation most folks advising don't have a pastor and some do not even attend an Apostolic church. Remember what David said about the counsel of the ungodly.

If they are indwelt by the Spirit, trying their best to live for the Lord, and assembling with other belivers in some fashion, how are they then ungodly?

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by thaddaeus417

I am not defending him and I do believe what you have said is the truth. Why should you stay? I just don't want to be another guy who tells someone I do not know what they want to hear.

So, thinking about how horribly Saul treated David, he (David) humbled himself and endured the mistreatment. He did what was right in the Lord's eye and as his reward for being faithful was that he was made King.

David's "faith" was manifested in the fact that he didn't KILL Saul. He certainly didn't STAY with him. I don't see anyone here telling Originalist to physically kill his pastor. . . .

Even apart from that, I highly doubt the pastor at issue here is anointed in the same way Saul was.

[Nitehawk013]

It always seems to go back to David and Saul right?

Modern leaders aren't kings ruling within a theocratic country. This is the church. Second God didn't approve or wnat that whole king nonsense in the first place. He begged Israel by way of the prophet to NOT ask for a king. Finally, you see no reference back to David and Saul in the NT when it writes about how to deal with leaders and disagreements. You certainly see nothign about how you owe your pastor a sit down meeting and explanation when you feel God leading you elsewhere. I think 99% of the time it is a good idea to show him that respect and talk to him, but it's not like this process is spelled out in scripture.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

It always seems to go back to David and Saul right?

Modern leaders aren't kings ruling within a theocratic country. This is the church. Second God didn't approve or wnat that whole king nonsense in the first place. He begged Israel by way of the prophet to NOT ask for a king. Finally, you see no reference back to David and Saul in the NT when it writes about how to deal with leaders and disagreements. You certainly see nothign about how you owe your pastor a sit down meeting and explanation when you feel God leading you elsewhere. I think 99% of the time it is a good idea to show him that respect and talk to him, but it's not like this process is spelled out in scripture.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

If they are indwelt by the Spirit, trying their best to live for the Lord, and assembling with other belivers in some fashion, how are they then ungodly?

They haven't pulled out the weed of Carmelita.

[thaddaeus417]

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.